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Computers and Software => Computers and Software - General => Topic started by: 3Deep on August 19, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
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How many of you are hopping on win 10? I know we can get a free download, but I've heard it will mess up your browser and you got to reset everything... Pros/Cons and if you've already made the move is it worth it. I'm still holding on to XP on one of our computers. ::)
darryl
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Upgraded at home from windows 7 Professional to the windows 10 version.
No issues with my browser - I use Chrome. I did have to manually make it my default.
Other than that, no issues so far other than learning a new layout..... But this is home use.
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XP, jesus man. Time to move on haha.
We haven't moved from 7 yet, but will move to 10 I think. I refuse to use 8, it came on our shipping computer, its terrible.
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Can one switch back? Or, what does it take to run dual OS?
I did read that almost all applications that run on 7 will run on 10
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XP, jesus man. Time to move on haha.
We haven't moved from 7 yet, but will move to 10 I think. I refuse to use 8, it came on our shipping computer, its terrible.
yeah I know Brandt, but moving to 7, 8 now 10 IMO is more for internet use more than it is for running art programs unless your upgrading your art program's with each upgrade that comes out every other month LOL
darryl
ps I agree win 8.2 sucks, wish we would have just bypass it, but we are getting the hang of it now and now 10 is here LOL
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we have one computer here on it, so far so good. it's cleaner than 7, a little bit faster on the older system, but not by much.
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XP, jesus man. Time to move on haha.
We haven't moved from 7 yet, but will move to 10 I think. I refuse to use 8, it came on our shipping computer, its terrible.
Ahah I remember Vista and 7. They were OK, usable. I am currently using Apple computers but had to buy a couple Windows earlier in the year. They both came with Win 8. NO ONE can work with them! Both people using them have Mac at home and are unable to even understand how mail works, they always log in on Gmail and use through browser.
For me, personally, I can't understand something as simple as the calculator or how to go to the basic home screen
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Mac guy here, but could get around in XP, and then 7. Got a new PC for the office with 8, couldn't have been more unhappy, absolutely hated it. Still do. For some reason I can't figure, I find just about just about everything Microsoft incomprehensible as a rule, but I know that's just me. I'm not a technophobe either. If 10 gets good results from users we may go there; not being from that environment, I always have found it to be unintuitive, but again that's just me. I just want to turn on the light, not re-invent it every 6 months so that I have to read a manual to turn it on. I hope it does work out better, keep posting everyone.
Steve.
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Windows 8 / 8.1 is usable as long as Classic Shell is installed which adds the Windows 7 style Start Menu back. It can also be set to boot to the desktop and not to that hideous and counter-intuitive Metro screen. http://www.classicshell.net/ (http://www.classicshell.net/)
On Windows 10, just yesterday bought a new laptop with it. Still in the box, have yet to set it up. Probably over the weekend. If I have anything interesting to report, I'll post again.
I usually never upgrade a computer to a totally new operating system. I always stick with the one originally installed. If needing to use an updated OS, as is sometimes the case with my Macs, I'll install the new OS to a partition of an external thunderbolt drive.
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I usually never upgrade a computer to a totally new operating system. I always stick with the one originally installed. If needing to use an updated OS, as is sometimes the case with my Macs, I'll install the new OS to a partition of an external thunderbolt drive.
How can us intermediate (non-expert so answer accordingly) Windows users do something similar with our machines and operating systems? Is there a way to take advantage of the Win 10 downloads, but just maybe park 'em and have 'em as a secondary OS, maybe just try as a trial run at least at first?
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With 8.0 ran with Classic Shell and worked well. We have upgraded 4 computers from 7 to 10 so far without any problems.
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If Windows 7-8-8.1 is installed, I don't believe its possible to download and install the free Windows 10 upgrade to a secondary hard disk or partition. It basically wants to overwrite the previous system, although it is possible to revert to the old system again if there's an issue. So in essence, Windows 10 is not really "free" like new versions of Mac OS X. When downloading a new version of OS X, it can be saved and installed anywhere.
The cheap route to test a new Windows OS is to install Virtual Box https://www.virtualbox.org/ (https://www.virtualbox.org/)on your Windows machine and then install a new or different OS to it along with your apps. This creates a virtual environment, basically its seen as a different system and can be used as such. It works much better on newer, faster systems with at least 8 GB of RAM and plenty of open disk space. There again, Windows 10 is not actually free, so you'd have to buy a license to do this.
Overall, Macs are much more elegant and simplistic when/if wanting to play around with many versions of operating systems.
If however you'd like a true dual-boot Windows system, a second internal hard disk will need to be installed and configured.
See this page:
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/add-second-hard-drive-set-up-dual-booting-70976.html (http://smallbusiness.chron.com/add-second-hard-drive-set-up-dual-booting-70976.html)
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Could a person clone his OS drive, and then upgrade to 10 on the new drive. If it doesn't work, switch back to the old drive.
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So far so good with win10 in my opinion. I think they have reacted to the backlash from 8 and made the new OS way more friendly for desktop users. Definite improvement. I hate complex workarounds, so I just upgrade and move on with life.
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Could a person clone his OS drive, and then upgrade to 10 on the new drive. If it doesn't work, switch back to the old drive.
Sure, you could do that. 8)
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Could one restore to a point before the upgrade as can be done with other application installations?
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I might go ahead and upgrade the one computer here to 10 and see how it goes, since we can upgrade for free right now.
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Well, last night I decided to unbox the new Windows 10 laptop and check it out. Was up until 3:00 am jerking around with it. No big apps installed yet aside from Google Drive although so far, I'm not exactly thrilled.
The first big issue I ran into is Windows 10 refuses to see my NAS drives (network attached hard drives). I have 3 on the network and none are accessible no matter what I try. After investigating, this seems to be an issue others are having.
After a while one share (basically a shared network folder) on one of the drives, the oldest one appeared when viewing This PC in Explorer although is not available when viewing networks. The other 2 NAS drives, a WD Raid and a Buffalo Link Station can't be accessed.
The second issue is Windows 10 can't see my Macs on the network. And obviously the Macs can't access the Windows 10 system either. Here again, tried everything but no dice and very little information regarding this is available. I'm sure I'll eventually get all network devices to work at some point with some sort of hack although I'd rather not have to go to extremes in the event the modification effects something else.
Bet the ranch I'll find yet further annoyances with Windows 10. If this new laptop was a higher-end system that I intended to do serious work on, most likely I'd wipe it and install Windows 7 due to the networking problems. I can't wait to try and print to one of my networked printers....or should I say NOT to print?
Explorer feels sluggish using 10 when compared to my other Win boxes, and if you're planning on using Microsoft Edge, their new browser, well, forget that and just install Chrome.
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I am going to do a fresh install on a spare hard drive.....That way I can swap back and forth if I need...
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Could one restore to a point before the upgrade as can be done with other application installations?
Yes, you can. Although it must be done within a month, which is ridiculous.
I think most users are better off sticking with Windows 7 for now.....or forever. Possibly 10 will get better at some point. Its really just Windows 8 with an added start menu and without the Metro tiles screen. Although they do manage to stuff tiles into the start menu, which I got rid of.
Better yet....consider an iMac as Microsoft just doesn't get it. One bloated, overly complex and buggy OS after the other.
Yes, I know Microsoft has been touting all the other improvements with 10 although in my very early assessment, that's all fluff and nothing more. They needed a lean, fast, simpler OS. Windows 10 is a monstrous hog that will still be confusing to many people.
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You're going to start some trouble with that one Steve, LOL...
Steve
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You're going to start some trouble with that one Steve, LOL...
Steve
You're probably right! :P
Fact is, Windows 7 was and still is a good OS. It was stable, clean, easy, fast and made sense. Microsoft should have built upon that structure as opposed to trying to reinvent the wheel. They had a winner which could have been advanced yet further. They decide however to throw the proverbial monkey wrench into the mix.
I'm not an Apple Fan Boy by any stretch of the imagination although go back and look at the FIRST version of OS X. Its very similar in form and function to the latest version. They had a winning formula and stuck to it.
Microsoft, as I said previously, just doesn't get it.
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Update on the NAS drive connection issue with Windows 10......
I was finally able to connect to my network drives and the Macs by creating a new user, logging out, then logging in with the new user account. Once doing so, the NAS drives magically appeared on the network along with the Macs. I then logged back in as the Admin and deleted the other user account. All continues to function normally.
Had a feeling there was some sort of confusion that could be rectified by logging in with another account.
Anyhow, keep this in mind if not able to connect to other types of network devices using Windows 10.
Time for a beer and a nice cigar. 8)
Have a great weekend!
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Update on the NAS drive connection issue with Windows 10......
I was finally able to connect to my network drives and the Macs by creating a new user, logging out, then logging in with the new user account. Once doing so, the NAS drives magically appeared on the network along with the Macs. I then logged back in as the Admin and deleted the other user account. All continues to function normally.
Had a feeling there was some sort of confusion that could be rectified by logging in with another account.
Anyhow, keep this in mind if not able to connect to other types of network devices using Windows 10.
Time for a beer and a nice cigar. 8)
Have a great weekend!
for some odd reason, that is the ONLY way I can get corel to open up. I had an automatic update the other day and boom, this happens. wtf....I might try what you just did, thanks.