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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: BorisB on May 27, 2015, 09:47:51 AM

Title: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: BorisB on May 27, 2015, 09:47:51 AM
Hi,

is anybody using this T-shirts folder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XoOLaWdzVQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XoOLaWdzVQ)


Opinions?

It works with one operator, which is big advantage.


Boris
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: mimosatexas on May 27, 2015, 10:19:54 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Og4trZRrkCg/TEBjW8VwZcI/AAAAAAAAALY/zSSV5wfwmw0/s1600/FlipFold+Adult+2+Pack.png (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Og4trZRrkCg/TEBjW8VwZcI/AAAAAAAAALY/zSSV5wfwmw0/s1600/FlipFold+Adult+2+Pack.png)
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: ericheartsu on May 27, 2015, 10:23:20 AM
hahah i thought the same thing
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: mimosatexas on May 27, 2015, 10:37:26 AM
I use that daily and it is faster than what they show in the video.  Shrug...
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: BorisB on May 27, 2015, 10:54:44 AM
[url]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Og4trZRrkCg/TEBjW8VwZcI/AAAAAAAAALY/zSSV5wfwmw0/s1600/FlipFold+Adult+2+Pack.png[/url] ([url]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Og4trZRrkCg/TEBjW8VwZcI/AAAAAAAAALY/zSSV5wfwmw0/s1600/FlipFold+Adult+2+Pack.png[/url])


Well, sometimes you see the real value of machines or devices or anything life once you try it out. Not just by looking at it.


We used to use this kind of flip-flop folders in my shop for some years. I guess somewhere between 1998-2004.
And I thought  machines like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDTQXTnlfE  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDTQXTnlfE) were pretty useless.

I couldn't be more wrong. Friend of mine convinced me to buy one. One of better investments I did.  One person folds close to 200  T--shirts per Hour. With no issues.

On Amscomatic we always need two persons.  Speedy folder sits close to dryer and whenever unloader has some time to wait for whatever reason he can fold T-shirts.

Boris
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: LoneWolf2 on May 27, 2015, 02:49:52 PM
Ryonet just introduced one that looks almost like an exact copy of the Speedy-T thing.
Not sure if $12k is a fair price for what it is, but seems like a little much to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzZJFmKOaj4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzZJFmKOaj4)
http://www.screenprinting.com/roq-n-fold-automatic-t-shirt-folding-machine#.VWYRs1nBzRY (http://www.screenprinting.com/roq-n-fold-automatic-t-shirt-folding-machine#.VWYRs1nBzRY)
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: BorisB on May 27, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
Ryonet just introduced one that looks almost like an exact copy of the Speedy-T thing.
Not sure if $12k is a fair price for what it is, but seems like a little much to me.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzZJFmKOaj4[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzZJFmKOaj4[/url])
[url]http://www.screenprinting.com/roq-n-fold-automatic-t-shirt-folding-machine#.VWYRs1nBzRY[/url] ([url]http://www.screenprinting.com/roq-n-fold-automatic-t-shirt-folding-machine#.VWYRs1nBzRY[/url])


It's Speedy by Chiossi & Cavazzuti.  We payed about 60% of this price, that was price for new back than, about 10 years ago.

There are several more producers of roughly the same unit.

Acosgraf:
http://www.acosgraf.com/include/prodPdf.php?show=425 (http://www.acosgraf.com/include/prodPdf.php?show=425)
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: willy35 on May 27, 2015, 05:58:20 PM
I got a leaflet of this folding machine at Fespa, but can not say much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihXBWc3ykk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihXBWc3ykk)

Boris, Why the speedy-t is useless ?

Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: Frog on May 27, 2015, 07:24:18 PM

Boris, Why the speedy-t is useless ?

I believe that Boris said that that was what he thought until he tried one!

"And I thought  machines like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDTQXTnlfE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDTQXTnlfE) were pretty useless.
I couldn't be more wrong. Friend of mine convinced me to buy one. One of better investments I did."
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: willy35 on May 28, 2015, 03:07:14 AM
Oh yes Frog you are right, I should not reply after midnight when brain is sleeping  ;D
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: Rockers on May 28, 2015, 08:41:03 AM
Ryonet just introduced one that looks almost like an exact copy of the Speedy-T thing.
Not sure if $12k is a fair price for what it is, but seems like a little much to me.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzZJFmKOaj4[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzZJFmKOaj4[/url])
[url]http://www.screenprinting.com/roq-n-fold-automatic-t-shirt-folding-machine#.VWYRs1nBzRY[/url] ([url]http://www.screenprinting.com/roq-n-fold-automatic-t-shirt-folding-machine#.VWYRs1nBzRY[/url])

I don`t get it. So the roq-n-fold is slightly faster then the girl in our shop using a flip fold, it does not fold nearly as neat as she does, and you still have to put the folded shirt manually in a nylon bag. That machine would not make into our shop, never. Now in all fairness I was watching the video without sound so I don`t know if this was maybe just a parody by Ryan.
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: screenxpress on May 29, 2015, 12:47:40 AM
And then there's the 'manual' way -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An0mFZ3enhM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An0mFZ3enhM)
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: bulldog on May 29, 2015, 08:25:42 AM
I like that the Metalnox at least bags the shirt on its own. I wouldn't mind having one of these...but not in the 10k-12k range.

Came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbcixj7Occ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbcixj7Occ)

Makes me wonder if something like this could just be made fairly cheap. Minus the bells and whistles.
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: Gilligan on May 29, 2015, 10:23:51 AM
Yeah, that really is all there is to it.

That diy version is like $30 bucks and a very few lines of code.

Obviously one would want one a little more robust, but that would just mean upgrading the components and you would be good to go.
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: bulldog on May 29, 2015, 10:38:27 AM
Gilly, if you were to make one what would you use for the servos and controller?

I'm kinda wanting to try this now haha.
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: Gilligan on May 29, 2015, 05:19:49 PM
Controller, you just go with the arduino like he has... I saw those at Pierre's favorite store (Microcenter or whatever it's called) for freaking $4 bucks!  That's all you need to drive one of these guys.  Servo wise, I don't know.  I've been thinking about looking for something on that end because of other projects.  Really you just need one with a driver to get the juice to it as the arduino won't supply the juice we would like to see.  Even if you went with something less "controllable" you could always put limit switches in there (like proxies on an auto) to turn the direction around/off.
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: Rockers on May 29, 2015, 07:22:33 PM
I like that the Metalnox at least bags the shirt on its own. I wouldn't mind having one of these...but not in the 10k-12k range.

Came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbcixj7Occ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbcixj7Occ)

Makes me wonder if something like this could just be made fairly cheap. Minus the bells and whistles.
The problem with that DIY machine is that it`s folding motion is too slow giving you a not so desired final outcome. If the folding speed could be increased this would be avery good alternative to a $12K folder.
Title: Re: Metalnox T-shirt folder
Post by: Gilligan on May 29, 2015, 08:16:48 PM
All programmable or specifiable with the hardware chosen.