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screen printing => Equipment => DIY - From master engineered marvels to cobbled together jury-rigged or Jerry-built junk! => Topic started by: lrsbranding on April 04, 2015, 12:39:27 PM

Title: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: lrsbranding on April 04, 2015, 12:39:27 PM
I don't know what all the hubbub is about static frames not being as good as retensionable. I have static frames that I've used for years.
I have a 20x24 that has helped unroll lots of backing and platen tape.
3 20x24's that have done an excellent job of organizing the heat press station.
Where would my Newmans be without the 23x31 drip rack?
And last but not least a hard working basket for my new 54" dryer.
I must be missing something because I just can't see retensionables doing that.
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: jvanick on April 04, 2015, 12:44:40 PM
ROFL.  -- Pure win!
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: inkstain on April 04, 2015, 01:17:44 PM
Haha, Amazing!!
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: jsheridan on April 04, 2015, 04:14:35 PM
You sir have just won the internet today!

(http://i.imgur.com/dhMeAzK.gif)

Make it to ISS Long Beach or SGIA Atlanta and the beer is on me!
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: lrsbranding on April 04, 2015, 04:23:03 PM
Thanks. My wife always tells me we don't have enough money to buy something but failed to say anything about making it. So now we have a shop full of redneck creations.
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: TCT on April 04, 2015, 06:24:53 PM
Somewhere there is a screen stretcher crying... GREAT ideas!
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: screenxpress on April 04, 2015, 07:00:02 PM
G Dammit......In the last 2 years I've had the glue come off of about 8 aluminum statics.

And what did I do?

Gave them to my neighbor who welds and tinkers with aluminum stuff.

Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhh and I just KNOW he won't give em back !!
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: lrsbranding on April 04, 2015, 07:50:22 PM
Here's one hiding away under the work table keeping some rarely used platens off the floor. The screws are just as tight today as the day it was made.
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: mooseman on April 04, 2015, 07:59:38 PM
that stuff is rated at more than 5 antlers up but when this system was developed we never thought we would see this level of cool.
Creativity, whimsy and down right cool.
Now if you can convert your next static  to a star gate or worm hole you be da man!

mooseman
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: lrsbranding on April 04, 2015, 09:19:29 PM
I did use one as a pretensioned squareicular reversed phase time conduit initiator but lost it in 2018. When we get there I'll post pics.
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: ABuffington on June 03, 2015, 12:09:49 PM
Statics are only as good as the mesh you put on them.  Gotta admit though my next booth may be Statics bolted together and you can make quick inspection tables out them with a piece of white plexi and some led's.

Al
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: Sbrem on June 03, 2015, 01:09:55 PM
Thanks, I really needed the laugh, a tremendously sucky day so far... So, what about wood statics?

Steve
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: printguy on June 03, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
Here's an idea...
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: jvanick on June 03, 2015, 01:29:00 PM
Damn it .. i just sold 50 of them to a local garage printer that had no clue... would have been fun to have had a huge bonfire with them.  A fitting end to such a pita.
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: Colin on June 03, 2015, 01:42:56 PM
Just stay upwind when that wood burns..... so many chemicals soaked into those frames ;)
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: starchild on June 03, 2015, 01:52:56 PM
I agree statistics are better than retentionables provided certain conditions are met:

The mesh being used should be an low elongation mesh and preferably balanced.

The stretcher/supplier must provide the percentage of elongation warp and weft and guarantee there are no areas of isolated tensions or imbalanced open area and imbalanced threads.

The printer should be able to easily look up the tension tolerance for given mesh (as well as other specs) and feel confident that if he uses his mesh calculator and tension meter that every thing is on point as above..  (Every printer should want to use this info to set off contact,  select blade width as well as duro and edge type etc)

Now if you can get statics with these features at industry prices then retens can get a smack down.

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Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: Sbrem on June 03, 2015, 02:49:52 PM
Here's an idea...

I love it. On the other hand, as one of the really old guys here, I printed gazillions of t's with wood frames in the '70's and '80's. Great thread so far.

Steve
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: tonypep on June 03, 2015, 02:58:46 PM
That's all we have ever used here. H2o don't care
Title: Re: Static frames are better than retensionable
Post by: jvanick on June 03, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
I agree statistics are better than retentionables provided certain conditions are met:

The mesh being used should be an low elongation mesh and preferably balanced.

The stretcher/supplier must provide the percentage of elongation warp and weft and guarantee there are no areas of isolated tensions or imbalanced open area and imbalanced threads.

The printer should be able to easily look up the tension tolerance for given mesh (as well as other specs) and feel confident that if he uses his mesh calculator and tension meter that every thing is on point as above..  (Every printer should want to use this info to set off contact,  select blade width as well as duro and edge type etc)

Now if you can get statics with these features at industry prices then retens can get a smack down.

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I'm not sure if you're being tongue in cheek or serious here ;)

but I just recently learned from Richard Greaves about dealing with statics and less-tension by adding off-contact... never really realized the "why" it worked before until I learned about static tension vs dynamic tension. -- I mean it makes great sense once you think about it, but until you really think in that deep of detail, you never realize it.