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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: ericheartsu on February 18, 2015, 07:22:54 PM

Title: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: ericheartsu on February 18, 2015, 07:22:54 PM
We are having the weirdest issues with triblends and waterbased ink. We are getting big time shrinkage on tees from Canvas, Next Level, and American Apparel, but it's only on certain sizes, or certain colors.

Any one know what the culprit could be? could it be we are running our dryers to slow/to hot?
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: kingscreen on February 18, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
We had this issue a while back.  Dryer was too hot.
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: ericheartsu on February 18, 2015, 09:03:25 PM
We had this issue a while back.  Dryer was too hot.

what are your typical settings for DC or WB on tri blends?
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: brandon on February 18, 2015, 11:21:28 PM
We are having the weirdest issues with triblends and waterbased ink. We are getting big time shrinkage on tees from Canvas, Next Level, and American Apparel, but it's only on certain sizes, or certain colors.

Any one know what the culprit could be? could it be we are running our dryers to slow/to hot?

This is my opinion and like b*** h***s we all have one. Whenever we print Canvas or Next Level all of the shirts in the same run are different blacks or mediums are different sizes and so on and on. One was made in this country and another in that country. It does make it difficult sometimes. AA is at least all made in the same factory so 95% of the time everything seems okay across the board. But that out of the way yes, dryer issue most likely. You will have to do some testing and also on runs keep a little notebook or something and document, document, document...
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: T Shirt Farmer on February 19, 2015, 01:57:20 AM
Brandon
Did you have same issue when you were in Seattle ?  Wondering if stock flow is different in various parts of the country.
We are having the weirdest issues with triblends and waterbased ink. We are getting big time shrinkage on tees from Canvas, Next Level, and American Apparel, but it's only on certain sizes, or certain colors.

Any one know what the culprit could be? could it be we are running our dryers to slow/to hot?

This is my opinion and like b*** h***s we all have one. Whenever we print Canvas or Next Level all of the shirts in the same run are different blacks or mediums are different sizes and so on and on. One was made in this country and another in that country. It does make it difficult sometimes. AA is at least all made in the same factory so 95% of the time everything seems okay across the board. But that out of the way yes, dryer issue most likely. You will have to do some testing and also on runs keep a little notebook or something and document, document, document...
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: brandon on February 19, 2015, 10:42:30 AM
Yeah, I was hoping it was going to be different. Nope! Hahaha
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: cleveprint on February 19, 2015, 10:50:13 AM
ive always found the same issue when flashing them. the black triblends shrink like crazy, no matter which brand we've used. but say a red one, i can leave it under the flash for 6 seconds and nothing happens. yet the black or heather ones can only be under there for 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: T Shirt Farmer on February 19, 2015, 11:02:48 AM
ive always found the same issue when flashing them. the black triblends shrink like crazy, no matter which brand we've used. but say a red one, i can leave it under the flash for 6 seconds and nothing happens. yet the black or heather ones can only be under there for 2 seconds.
Yup black burns in fricken heart beat.... thorough preheat of pallets, low power settings 60% (we run quartz) we usually have a person dedicated to watching for scorching for the first 4 rounds or until we get up to operating speed.
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: kingscreen on February 19, 2015, 11:14:14 AM
what are your typical settings for DC or WB on tri blends?

We don't have any specifics that work across the board,  we just adjust it as needed.  We typically don't drop our dryer temp, we just control the belt speed.

This is my opinion and like b*** h***s we all have one. Whenever we print Canvas or Next Level all of the shirts in the same run are different blacks or mediums are different sizes and so on and on. One was made in this country and another in that country. It does make it difficult sometimes. AA is at least all made in the same factory so 95% of the time everything seems okay across the board. But that out of the way yes, dryer issue most likely. You will have to do some testing and also on runs keep a little notebook or something and document, document, document...

We have experienced almost 100% the opposite.  American Apparel is the WORST for consistency and have to be one of the worst for over-dyes.  This wouldn't be such a problem if their preferred Black over-dyes weren't from their Royal stock.  Discharging American Apparel, in our experience, is like Russian Roulette.
Title: Re: Tri Blend Shrinkage
Post by: mimosatexas on February 19, 2015, 12:50:48 PM
I agree with Scott, AA is shitty for consistency.  One small will have a side seem, next small in the stack doesn't.  Shifts in color, length, dischargeability, etc.  PITA.