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screen printing => Newbie => Topic started by: Flash Ink on September 24, 2014, 05:20:46 PM
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Just got off the phone with a digitizing and vectoring company from the great land of India. He actually gave me his real name and not calling himself Bob or some other americanized name of that ilk. Getting to the point, has anyone ever dealt with Patterns India . com? The offer may be too good to be true, but we are always looking to save a couple of bucks. They are offering $5.50 per vector with a 2-4 hour turn around. Not sure but thinking about trying it. Anyone use these guys? We have a great digitizer and vector company that we work with all the time so I am not looking for any suggestions.
Not sure this is the right section to post this, but I try to be extra respectful about where I post.
Please let me know.
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Just got off the phone with a digitizing and vectoring company from the great land of India. He actually gave me his real name and not calling himself Bob or some other americanized name of that ilk. Getting to the point, has anyone ever dealt with Patterns India . com? The offer may be too good to be true, but we are always looking to save a couple of bucks. They are offering $5.50 per vector with a 2-4 hour turn around. Not sure but thinking about trying it. Anyone use these guys? We have a great digitizer and vector company that we work with all the time so I am not looking for any suggestions.
Not sure this is the right section to post this, but I try to be extra respectful about where I post.
Please let me know.
$5.50 worth trying id say.
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Until your customers start looking to save a buck.
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Until your customers start looking to save a buck.
Or yours!
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I get my digitizing done in the good ol' us of a.
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and if the 7 year old doesn't digitize in the 4 hour time frame, they catch a beatin'!
I digitize everything myself, so when it's eff'd up, i punch myself in the nuts.....
:o
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You guys are so prejudiced, it might have slipped your mind that India is actually not as undeveloped as you might think.
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Could the $5.00 they are getting from us be worth alot more there as well?
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India probably has the most doctors than any other country. I swear over half the doctors in the US is from India
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Could the $5.00 they are getting from us be worth alot more there as well?
For sure.
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You guys are so prejudiced, it might have slipped your mind that India is actually not as undeveloped as you might think.
But the garment industry hasn't been treated that well... Remember the collapsed factory ~6 months ago.
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There are a lot of factors at play here. India has placed a greater importance on education than we do. In turn they have a surplus of tech or computer related jobs and if those people can do the job via the internet, now they are in business. Couple that with their lower cost of living and the exchange rate, they do "OK" for themselves based on the cultural norm.
I have used one guys company for vectorizing for 8 years and our conversations have gone much deeper than "here is the file, need it by am". His English could use some work, but it is a hell of a lot better than my Indonesian!
To answer the original question, I have not used the company in question, but have had very good luck with other companies in India.
I would advise that what I have found is that proper English comprehension is usually the biggest hurdle. Especially if you are trying to convey detail oriented instructions.
My .02
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You guys are so prejudiced, it might have slipped your mind that India is actually not as undeveloped as you might think.
But the garment industry hasn't been treated that well... Remember the collapsed factory ~6 months ago.
Well that was Bangladesh, right?
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Bangladesh, India, what's the difference? It's not 'Murica.
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Guilty as charged... For whatever reason, I always thought it was IN India, not just surrounded by it.
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They have a pretty advanced space program over there, which of course does not help you much with digitizing though.
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I get my shirts from India and go there at least once a year.
You should try them, at that price you have nothing to loose.
One big advantage is the time difference, they work while you sleep.
Send them a file in the late afternoon and it will be ready in the morning.
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We do all of our digitizing and vector work in house. So I doubt id use this anyway but for people sending it out already... id say worth a shot.
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From time to time I use a college kid in Sri Lanka for art work.....The 1.80 an hour he charges is like a "gift from god" for him and his family....Sadly I do not have much need lately.....
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From time to time I use a college kid in Sri Lanka for art work.....The 1.80 an hour he charges is like a "gift from god" for him and his family....Sadly I do not have much need lately.....
We had a overseas digitizer we used way back in the day and each job he treated with so much care because it was "a lot" of money for him even though it wasn't much compared to USA digitizing costs. His work was better than most we tried though. I always prefer to use USA when possible though. Not much need for that stuff anymore here though, but never know.
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most of the issues I've seen with going off shore were created with bad communication skills. Finding a good communicator and a proficient digitizer will be the key.
pierre
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$1 = 61.16 rupees as of today. A loaf of bread costs between 14-18R's.
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Bottom line for this trend:
+ for the Indian
+ for you (and maybe your client
- for our working class as a whole (it is not a coincidence that as more and more things moved off shore, basic needs that can't be imported like shelter, and health have gotten less and less affordable for the working class)
And yes, I am guilty as well with my cheap T's and occasional artwork touch-up that even with an American company, uses some foreign labor
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$1 = 61.16 rupees as of today. A loaf of bread costs between 14-18R's.
This is the kind of math I like to see.
So he's earning 3-4 loaves of bread an hour in front of a computer.
That's better than some American Apparel employees.
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$1 = 61.16 rupees as of today. A loaf of bread costs between 14-18R's.
This is the kind of math I like to see.
So he's earning 3-4 loaves of bread an hour in front of a computer.
That's better than some American Apparel employees.
Keep in mind, they are not making $1/hr. It is typically $4-8 per design, and I bet 75% of re draws take less than a hour....
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Wow. Thanks for the response. I will let you guys know how it goes.
and my ยข.02 with my current drawing and digitizing company that is based here in 'Murica. When we get the vectored files back they have chinese characters for all the layers in illustrator, so I am guessing that the Yuan and Rupee might be the same.
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I wonder if some of these companies aren't just turning around and "brokering" the deal between offshore and the customer (us).
So your US digitizer sends the stuff off, gets it back and marks it up. Maybe they take care of edits or something vs back and forth with Asia... Just wondering because it has caught my attention as a potential business model. LOL
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I think that Artwork Source uses folks all over the globe
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Learn to speak Hindi and get to it Gilly! That's an arm up over everyone else!
A digitizing firm in Southern California that wins awards for it's work every year certainly sends its work to India.
I hate to say it but this is basically the type of work that the US can't really compete on, except
for the language barrier. There's no shipping involved.
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I still go with SSDigitizing, I *THINK* it's all done in the US.
I know he turns around stuff super fast when I need it and it's always done well. Cost more, but I'd rather keep that money in the country than send it around the globe.
http://www.ssdigitizing.com/ (http://www.ssdigitizing.com/)
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I wonder if some of these companies aren't just turning around and "brokering" the deal between offshore and the customer (us).
So your US digitizer sends the stuff off, gets it back and marks it up. Maybe they take care of edits or something vs back and forth with Asia... Just wondering because it has caught my attention as a potential business model. LOL
It does happen, we use to print for a company that did that as their side business. If you're good at keywords and Google stuff you could probably make a decent amount of money at it
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I deal with India, China, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, etc......And most of the time the communication is better than US & Canada based suppliers....
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You guys are so prejudiced, it might have slipped your mind that India is actually not as undeveloped as you might think.
Um, we might not think it's as undeveloped as you think we do either, but I still don't want to live there. Back to the original, for $5.50, send them a jpeg and see what you get back. If it passes muster, then you're OK. But a lot of the stuff I've seen (some of my contract customers will use similar sites instead of paying us) don't pass muster here, too choppy, small lettering turns to crap, etc. One of my customers uses another printer for vector art, because the guy will charge him $50.00 at the most and make infinite changes for free. 2/3 of the time, there are issues, and we have to write back what they are so he can make the changes. He sends color separations one color in a separate file at a time. What is he using, Illustrator 88? To those of you who do that, my apologies, but it just seems awfully tedious compared to proper file prep and spot color assignment.
Steve
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I think you should try him, If he can provide you good quality with good price.