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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: jvanick on August 04, 2014, 12:31:36 PM
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We use 14" squeegees in our chopper heads, as we print on 14x18 platens... we spend a lot of time carding the ink back into the center of the screen.
I'm considering upgrading to winged floodbars, but Action Engineering doesn't carry the 14" variety in 'stock', so I'd have to order 12 of them... (which is a pretty good chunk of change, when I only really need 2 or 3 of them).
a few questions...
1. would it even be worth it to use a 16" winged flood bar.. guessing not, since it won't bring the ink back into the center of the screen...
2. does anybody have any 13-14" winged floodbars 'laying' around that they might be willing to sell? -- or know where to just buy a few of them at a time?
standard M&R style fit should be fine.
-J
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Did you try M&R or they have the ink traps that work nice.
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This may work for you...
http://www.uvprocess.com/product.asp?code=FLODBAR++B (http://www.uvprocess.com/product.asp?code=FLODBAR++B)
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We use 14" squeegees in our chopper heads, as we print on 14x18 platens... we spend a lot of time carding the ink back into the center of the screen.
I'm considering upgrading to winged floodbars, but Action Engineering doesn't carry the 14" variety in 'stock', so I'd have to order 12 of them... (which is a pretty good chunk of change, when I only really need 2 or 3 of them).
a few questions...
1. would it even be worth it to use a 16" winged flood bar.. guessing not, since it won't bring the ink back into the center of the screen...
2. does anybody have any 13-14" winged floodbars 'laying' around that they might be willing to sell? -- or know where to just buy a few of them at a time?
standard M&R style fit should be fine.
-J
last time I checked we will make any size you want and probably have them in stock. You can buy 1 or 100. Price is the same.
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These are in stock. Call us at 770-717-1000
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Ordered from Action! Thanks guys!
FYI, for anybody else looking, the 14" are now a standard stock item there...
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Fantastic! Thank you sincerely for your trust in our company. We'll have these out immediately.
Erik
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I took a Floorbar down to a Sheet Metal Shop and had wings made that I could attach to my existing Floodbar. $10.00 each
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I took a Floorbar down to a Sheet Metal Shop and had wings made that I could attach to my existing Floodbar. $10.00 each
Pictures?
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new flood bars are in and have used them on a few jobs.. HUGE improvement over non winged versions...
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new flood bars are in and have used them on a few jobs.. HUGE improvement over non winged versions...
It's great to hear you're pleased with them. We look forward to you trying other products also.
Thank you for the positive feedback!
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pics
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pics
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So did they make a whole new flood bar?
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Looks like they made it to fit flush with the whole face, and go a little deeper than the old one. Bolts/nuts are on top.
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That is correct, it is a front piece that attaches to the old floodbar.
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It's a little different but it beats hundreds of dollars per flood bar.
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pics
These look pretty cool but seem hard to clean. Seems like I solved my problem :) will take the photos and have a couple made for me. are they at any specific orientation (degrees) or did the shop just continue its orientation/profile?
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They are much harder to clean when compared to a straight bar/squeegee. Most companies make a winged flood bar, it may be cheaper to buy one for your press and have it shipped than actually having dinner custom made. Just a thought. What kind of press do you have? Pretty sure Action Engineering makes them for all presses.
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... wow old thread, but funny it was only a year that I made the switch to the winged floodbars.
they are harder to clean, but SO worth it when it comes to production runs.
we've done several long jobs where we haven't had to add or card ink all DAY on a screen...
our white and black winged bars never get cleaned... we just scrape off as much of the ink as we can, and put them on the shelf until next time....
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That's why I'm only doing a couple. One for white and the other for black. Hardly any need to clean those, they're used in 99% of the jobs we do.
TCT, we're based in Europe, I'm assuming shipping would be too expensive. I emailed them and asked for prices, will probably know more on monday. Also need the roller though, so, depending on the deal they make me, I might end up buying everything.
This is one of our biggest needs, i'm sure it'll improve our workflow.
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What kind of auto do you have? If it is a M&R don't they have a factory in Poland? Plus a handful of companies out of Austria? I have shipped stuff to Portugal, and if you use the US mail, it is much less expensive than I thought it would be. If you run into problems I'd be happy to help you out shipping things. PM me if I can help?
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It is a M&R, indeed.
I'm guessing the M&R official winged floodbars will likely be much more expensive than Action Engineering ones even with shipping from Poland. Still could be worth it but I don't think they have the roller thing?? That's the important one for me as I can have the wings made for a fraction of the price.
I see you run an sRoq, they're Portuguese. Seems like a great piece of machinery!
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It is a M&R, indeed.
I'm guessing the M&R official winged floodbars will likely be much more expensive than Action Engineering ones even with shipping from Poland. Still could be worth it but I don't think they have the roller thing?? That's the important one for me as I can have the wings made for a fraction of the price.
I see you run an sRoq, they're Portuguese. Seems like a great piece of machinery!
This is an assumption on pricing a lot of people make and it's not necessarily true. We also make the roller as well and have for many years. Just a FYI .
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Rich, how can I get pricing on the roller? Would definitely be interested. Could I PM you for information?
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Rich, how can I get pricing on the roller? Would definitely be interested. Could I PM you for information?
of course
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Logoman, excellent job. You took the initiative to fix the problem instead of spending a bunch of money on Ink Traps or New Winged Flood Bars. Be resourceful and you will excel in most endeavors. Screen printing is not science alone (no matter what the guys selling science tell you), being crafty and clever will get you a long way, plus you save some money and turned something that was headed to recycle bin into a useful tool.
"It's a poor craftsman that blames his tools"....John Perry Barlow