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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2013, 08:30:51 PM »
I guess it's because our Chaparral is so small (3 in 6 heat 3 out 24" wide) and only 3 panels that it doesn't cost us that much.

My calculations based on a 70% duty cycle which I just clocked myself over 2 mins (which does count for initial warm up), using my dryer 6  hours a day 4 days a week (we aren't even CLOSE to those numbers yet) we are only at like $56 bucks a month.

Keep in mind that that same $56 bucks worth of Louisiana heat will cost $100 in California, or another expensive state or region.
That's a problem with Electric Car ads as well, They pick the cheapest rates for their claims. Thing is, Electric cars don't have the option of gas, wait a minute, yes they do, but I see very few natural gas cars today.
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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2013, 08:52:03 PM »
I only did the math because I wanted it to make sense for me. ;)

Now I have to figure out another reason to upgrade my dryer.

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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2013, 09:00:27 PM »
I guess it's because our Chaparral is so small (3 in 6 heat 3 out 24" wide) and only 3 panels that it doesn't cost us that much.

My calculations based on a 70% duty cycle which I just clocked myself over 2 mins (which does count for initial warm up), using my dryer 6  hours a day 4 days a week (we aren't even CLOSE to those numbers yet) we are only at like $56 bucks a month.

Keep in mind that that same $56 bucks worth of Louisiana heat will cost $100 in California, or another expensive state or region.
That's a problem with Electric Car ads as well, They pick the cheapest rates for their claims. Thing is, Electric cars don't have the option of gas, wait a minute, yes they do, but I see very few natural gas cars today.
Or almost 5 times as much here in Japan.

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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2013, 09:13:50 PM »
So the gas meter is outside of course and there is black iron pipe run up the wall and over the shop and its capped at the end. Is there gas in this pipe right now? Or would the gas company have to turn it on? I know stupid question but I don't know the answer nonetheless.

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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2013, 10:14:11 PM »
Take a pic of the meter outside, particularly the valve then we can tell. I'm guessing if you don't have gas appliances running or no gas bill, then it is off.
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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2013, 10:25:11 AM »
we went from an early 90's maxi-cure 60" with 10' of heat to a 48" MD-8 with 12' of heat.  our electric bill dropped about $600 per month, our gas bill is right around $150-200..our gas company has a $75 fee every month for businesses, not for residential.  so i pay that every month regardless.

the best part about gas is it doesn't cycle like an electric dryer.  your heat will be consistent and hot...period.  electric isn't as good at curing ink.

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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2013, 11:08:41 PM »
I have a National Gas Dryer, it is probably 20ish years old. We run it all day long every day of the week. My gas bill runs around $170.00 per month

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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2013, 10:33:32 AM »
I have an ancient National electric dryer, 36 in wide, 10 ft long (2x6x2) with three panels.  With it on for 4-6 hours a day, 5 days a week, our electric is still under $100 a month, with all the lights, flash dryer, computer, etc.  Granted, we have no central air or heat, and our shop is tiny.  I can definitely see the savings if you have a much larger dryer and run it for a lot more hours.

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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2013, 07:42:00 PM »
I would really be more interested in how much gas your dryers use on an average day per hour. The cost does not tell me much but the volume of gas would give me a better idea. As I have mentioned before here in Japan gas prices are 5 times higher then in the States still we pay around only $400/month for our natural gas.

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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2013, 11:53:46 PM »
So I was thinking if I buy that gas meter I posted a link to earlier, would other people want to use it? Kinda like a forum members perk :D  I had kind planned on getting it anyway eventually, but when I got to thinking it would be cool for other people to use it also and post what your dryer costs to run. Since we run it dryers at different temps, we would have to come up with a "test temp" to run it at for a little while so we would have data that could be compared. We would just post the year, make, model, and gas used. Could be a cool reference for people buying used dryers..... You could also determine exactly how much your dryer costs to run.

I wouldn't charge people to use it(if you want to throw me $5 or a I.O.U. a beer, to use it I wouldn't refuse the gesture) probably just provide your UPS account for shipping. Then ship it to the next person in line when you are done. Probably have a "you break you buy!" policy but that's about it. Could be a cool resource for all of us!

If people are interested either reply or PM me and we can go from there!
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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2013, 07:21:36 AM »
So I was thinking if I buy that gas meter I posted a link to earlier, would other people want to use it? Kinda like a forum members perk :D  I had kind planned on getting it anyway eventually, but when I got to thinking it would be cool for other people to use it also and post what your dryer costs to run. Since we run it dryers at different temps, we would have to come up with a "test temp" to run it at for a little while so we would have data that could be compared. We would just post the year, make, model, and gas used. Could be a cool reference for people buying used dryers..... You could also determine exactly how much your dryer costs to run.

I wouldn't charge people to use it(if you want to throw me $5 or a I.O.U. a beer, to use it I wouldn't refuse the gesture) probably just provide your UPS account for shipping. Then ship it to the next person in line when you are done. Probably have a "you break you buy!" policy but that's about it. Could be a cool resource for all of us!

If people are interested either reply or PM me and we can go from there!
M&R has been sending out a gas meter for years with various fittings and hose to show people how much gas they are really using. We even have one series of gas dryers that has a built in gas meter that shows the consumption live. Alan has one on his Sprint International here on this forum. Every dryer model we build is tested for actual consumption and proper burn mixture. Just a FYI.
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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2013, 08:03:10 AM »
So I was thinking if I buy that gas meter I posted a link to earlier, would other people want to use it? Kinda like a forum members perk :D  I had kind planned on getting it anyway eventually, but when I got to thinking it would be cool for other people to use it also and post what your dryer costs to run. Since we run it dryers at different temps, we would have to come up with a "test temp" to run it at for a little while so we would have data that could be compared. We would just post the year, make, model, and gas used. Could be a cool reference for people buying used dryers..... You could also determine exactly how much your dryer costs to run.

I wouldn't charge people to use it(if you want to throw me $5 or a I.O.U. a beer, to use it I wouldn't refuse the gesture) probably just provide your UPS account for shipping. Then ship it to the next person in line when you are done. Probably have a "you break you buy!" policy but that's about it. Could be a cool resource for all of us!

If people are interested either reply or PM me and we can go from there!
M&R has been sending out a gas meter for years with various fittings and hose to show people how much gas they are really using. We even have one series of gas dryers that has a built in gas meter that shows the consumption live. Alan has one on his Sprint International here on this forum. Every dryer model we build is tested for actual consumption and proper burn mixture. Just a FYI.

Well Rich your customer service just took a crap on my idea! :D

Side note for you sir, I haven't dismissed or forgot the dryer proposal you did up for me. I plan on deciding and pulling the trigger at or soon after Long Beach.


I say we still start a thread with how much your dryer costs to run. Rich just made it easier now!
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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2013, 10:24:03 AM »
So I was thinking if I buy that gas meter I posted a link to earlier, would other people want to use it? Kinda like a forum members perk :D  I had kind planned on getting it anyway eventually, but when I got to thinking it would be cool for other people to use it also and post what your dryer costs to run. Since we run it dryers at different temps, we would have to come up with a "test temp" to run it at for a little while so we would have data that could be compared. We would just post the year, make, model, and gas used. Could be a cool reference for people buying used dryers..... You could also determine exactly how much your dryer costs to run.

I wouldn't charge people to use it(if you want to throw me $5 or a I.O.U. a beer, to use it I wouldn't refuse the gesture) probably just provide your UPS account for shipping. Then ship it to the next person in line when you are done. Probably have a "you break you buy!" policy but that's about it. Could be a cool resource for all of us!

If people are interested either reply or PM me and we can go from there!
M&R has been sending out a gas meter for years with various fittings and hose to show people how much gas they are really using. We even have one series of gas dryers that has a built in gas meter that shows the consumption live. Alan has one on his Sprint International here on this forum. Every dryer model we build is tested for actual consumption and proper burn mixture. Just a FYI.

Well Rich your customer service just took a crap on my idea! :D

Side note for you sir, I haven't dismissed or forgot the dryer proposal you did up for me. I plan on deciding and pulling the trigger at or soon after Long Beach.


I say we still start a thread with how much your dryer costs to run. Rich just made it easier now!
See me in LB and I will take you completely through the dryer as well as show you the documented test we do on the dryers including across the belt and through the dryer temperature curves.
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Re: Gas dryer efficiency.
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2013, 10:45:51 AM »
So I was thinking if I buy that gas meter I posted a link to earlier, would other people want to use it? Kinda like a forum members perk :D  I had kind planned on getting it anyway eventually, but when I got to thinking it would be cool for other people to use it also and post what your dryer costs to run. Since we run it dryers at different temps, we would have to come up with a "test temp" to run it at for a little while so we would have data that could be compared. We would just post the year, make, model, and gas used. Could be a cool reference for people buying used dryers..... You could also determine exactly how much your dryer costs to run.

I wouldn't charge people to use it(if you want to throw me $5 or a I.O.U. a beer, to use it I wouldn't refuse the gesture) probably just provide your UPS account for shipping. Then ship it to the next person in line when you are done. Probably have a "you break you buy!" policy but that's about it. Could be a cool resource for all of us!

If people are interested either reply or PM me and we can go from there!
M&R has been sending out a gas meter for years with various fittings and hose to show people how much gas they are really using. We even have one series of gas dryers that has a built in gas meter that shows the consumption live. Alan has one on his Sprint International here on this forum. Every dryer model we build is tested for actual consumption and proper burn mixture. Just a FYI.

Well Rich your customer service just took a crap on my idea! :D

Side note for you sir, I haven't dismissed or forgot the dryer proposal you did up for me. I plan on deciding and pulling the trigger at or soon after Long Beach.


I say we still start a thread with how much your dryer costs to run. Rich just made it easier now!
See me in LB and I will take you completely through the dryer as well as show you the documented test we do on the dryers including across the belt and through the dryer temperature curves.


Oh, you are going to be in Long Beach? I never seem to find the M&R booth there... ;D ;) 
You are high on my to do list there.
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