Author Topic: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners  (Read 3220 times)

Offline ericheartsu

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3540
looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« on: October 23, 2013, 01:17:52 PM »
Usually we use Beanedoo, but i'm looking for other suggestions of an OFF press ink cleaner/degradent.

Anything you all have been using, that you've been loving?
Night Owls
Waterbased screen printing and promo products.
www.nightowlsprint.com 281.741.7285


Offline ebscreen

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4278
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 01:21:18 PM »
CitraPaste is all we've ever used, so don't know any different, but no complaints. We put a little
water in it.

Offline kingscreen

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1161
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 01:29:39 PM »
Those are the two we keep in house at all times. We don't use Beanedoo on press because it leaves too much residue. Rhinotech makes one that is decent also. We went through a gallon sample before going back to Franmar.
Scott Garnett
King Screen

Offline tonypep

  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 5683
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 02:26:48 PM »
Citrapaste may be reduced with H2o as much as 50%. It supposedly works best that way. (From CCI rep)

Offline kingscreen

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1161
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 02:33:21 PM »
Citrapaste may be reduced with H2o as much as 50%. It supposedly works best that way. (From CCI rep)

I can confirm this. We pretty much only use it cut 50% with water.
Scott Garnett
King Screen

Offline mimosatexas

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4221
  • contributor
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 02:36:55 PM »
we are using something from easiway currently (maybe the 700?) that is pretty great at cutting through even sticky whites.  We were using a CCI product, not the citrapaste, that was sucking ass and taking multiple washes to get rid of all the ink.

Offline Printficient

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1222
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 02:54:18 PM »
F.S.I.C.
Shop-Doc "I make house calls"
Procedure Video Training
Press Inspections
Tips and Tricks Training
404-895-1796 Sonny McDonald

Offline ZooCity

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4914
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 02:55:18 PM »
We've been digging the CCI envirosolve all year here.  Stupid cheap at $81 per 5 gallon and does a good job with plastisol and water base.  A little foamy/soapy for my taste and the stuff is water based itself so you need to watch evaporation and slopping too much down the drain but it's small potatoes at the price we pay for this chem. 

Offline whitewater

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1830
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 03:03:36 PM »
saati chem PW-4

you will love it!

Offline ericheartsu

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3540
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 03:06:50 PM »
We've been digging the CCI envirosolve all year here.  Stupid cheap at $81 per 5 gallon and does a good job with plastisol and water base.  A little foamy/soapy for my taste and the stuff is water based itself so you need to watch evaporation and slopping too much down the drain but it's small potatoes at the price we pay for this chem.

we use this for our discharge inks, and didn't even think about trying it for plastisol. Us=dummies.
Night Owls
Waterbased screen printing and promo products.
www.nightowlsprint.com 281.741.7285

Offline mimosatexas

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4221
  • contributor
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2013, 04:25:06 PM »
I use water by itself for waterbased and discharge...why would you need a chemical?

Offline broadway

  • !!!
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 04:31:09 PM »
Easiway, plastisolve 820

Offline TCT

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2877
Alex

Hopefully I'll never have to grow up and get a real job...

www.twincitytees.com

Offline ZooCity

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4914
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2013, 04:54:11 PM »
I use water by itself for waterbased and discharge...why would you need a chemical?

Pigment staining primarily.  We wash off wb/dc ink residue with the pressure washer but hitting it after with a cleaner makes a big difference in reducing stains.  Some, like carbon black, are almost impossible to remove completely and will stay beneath the mesh knuckles even after dehazing but using a cleaner def helps in the battle. 

Offline alan802

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3535
  • I like to screen print
Re: looking for suggestions for plastisol cleaners
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2013, 06:30:50 PM »
Sprayway Screen Opener 957 :)  As much as people hate it, I've used dozens of different ink degradents and press washes over the years to replace the 957, and nothing comes close.  It's not cheap, but a little bit goes a long way.  If we are cataloging a screen for later use, 957.  Ink change, 957.  Something strange in the stencil, 957, run out of 701 for de-inking before screens go into dip tank, you guessed it, 957.  I know it's not popular but damn it does everything so good we can't stop buying it.  Every time I get a sample of something to replace and force them to use it, I get nothing but "es no bueno for chit".
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it -T.J.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it -T.P.