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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2013, 02:32:46 PM »
What are you all charging for over the zip? We're high at an extra five bucks per but that covers doing both kidding zips, open zips like AA F497 and multi color.  The waste can be high on this, both in garments and blown screens.  I'd like to charge less but don't feel comfortable yet.


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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2013, 02:35:59 PM »
What are you all charging for over the zip? We're high at an extra five bucks per but that covers doing both kidding zips, open zips like AA F497 and multi color.  The waste can be high on this, both in garments and blown screens.  I'd like to charge less but don't feel comfortable yet.

$75 per order on auto.
on manual very little (depending how many platens we have to cover with foam) and something like $0.25 per print (plus fleece fee if applicable).

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2013, 02:42:18 PM »
We were lucky that we had a set of zipper platens for this with foam down the middle ready to go. And we only did this on Hanes Print Pros, Gildans, ITC's, and AA's so we knew what to expect. So for us it was platen change over and how long that takes but with two guys not long. But we would mark it up for time just can't remember how much. But it has to be worth it financially or to keep the client around for the large easy runs.

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2013, 02:49:19 PM »
Hmmm, we're crazy high on this then for a larger run.   I'll have to dig into it and maybe make a matrix instead of a flat rate per pc.  Honestly, once it's all setup it's not too bad but it can be a rough go in some cases.

Thanks for the props Foo and Pierre, great work as always.  Your post long ago with the sim pro blackbirds really inspired me to do better with the over the ____ printing.  If anyone was wondering that print was done with CCI and Sericol inks on a 225 s.

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2013, 03:02:42 PM »
Here is an old one. Perfect timing. Cleaning and organizing computers today...

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2013, 03:28:04 PM »
@blue moon:

was that discharge white on a black gildan hoodie?  I've been hesitant to try that as they were 50/50.. but if it seems to be working, I might just have to give that a shot soon.

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2013, 03:39:26 PM »
@blue moon:

was that discharge white on a black gildan hoodie?  I've been hesitant to try that as they were 50/50.. but if it seems to be working, I might just have to give that a shot soon.

-J

nope, plain ole plastisol . . .

not that I think about it, all of our over seam prints have been with plastisol.

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2013, 04:26:59 PM »
Fellas..

Success on all fronts with our zip up discharge print.
We  used our house bright red mix that we've owned.. , aptly named Pepitone Red. :)
These were for one of our beverage customers, hence the growler.


The neoprene was perfect.

The only downside was that these sweatshirts are like sponges, and even with one stroke of discharge
still required two trips down a 10' tunnel with slow speed/higher temps.

John

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2013, 05:27:18 PM »
Nice man.  Yeah we have to 2x in the dryer just for safety's sake. 

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2013, 06:09:19 AM »
For the record I never gave the formula. We have around twenty reds.

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2013, 06:26:29 AM »
Oh and BTW thanks for the dubious achievment award! Seriously though, the reason we can often achieve better hues with wb/dc is the lack of fillers and resins required for plas inks. While necessary, they can sometimes get in the way. For companies like Hilfiger for instance, printers are required to match trim colors which are of course dyed. Easier to do this with wb.

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2013, 11:19:47 AM »
OK, I've read this through, and I'm a little confused (not new to me to be confused). My thought would be to leave a channel (like for DTG) but it appears that the favored approach is the 1/8 inch neoprene foam over the whole platen, which will let the zip push down; would this also be the case on a really heavy zip hood, like a Champion or MV Sport/Weatherproof? I guess I'm having trouble seeing how 1/8" foam will make a difference on 1/4" height seams... test, test, test I guess.

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Re: Full Front Discharge on Kissing Zipper hoodies... 10/15
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2013, 01:11:39 PM »
OK, I've read this through, and I'm a little confused (not new to me to be confused). My thought would be to leave a channel (like for DTG) but it appears that the favored approach is the 1/8 inch neoprene foam over the whole platen, which will let the zip push down; would this also be the case on a really heavy zip hood, like a Champion or MV Sport/Weatherproof? I guess I'm having trouble seeing how 1/8" foam will make a difference on 1/4" height seams... test, test, test I guess.

Steve

That's correct but we're using thicker foam and, where appropriate, cutting a groove for zip areas.