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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2013, 11:28:48 AM »
Servo lift is cool too.

Indeed it is.  Sounds cool too when it lifts.


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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2013, 11:44:04 AM »
I would think you could use a mechanical clamp system instead of screw down clamps.  It can't be that hard to develop.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2013, 12:03:35 PM »
Ok yall can stop bashing my Red team and wait and see what they come up with, I know some of you have had a bad experience with Anatol, but hey so have some people with other name companies gonna happen folks.  Yall know I'm an Anatol fan gotta fin the team LOL....

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2013, 12:17:05 PM »
Darryl - I had no intention on bashing them here, I thought I actually restrained myself pretty well!
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2013, 02:00:16 PM »
I forgot to add the quick-release button. Loosen the kip lever and hit the button so the spring raises the clamp lol. I have no idea how the kip lever would engage the shaft (heh heh) but I'm just a thinker, not a doer.

When I was a machinist I learned something that blew my mind at how simple it was and may apply here. If you drill a nut at an angle, you can just slip it on at that angle and then when it gets near the point you want to tighten, turn the nut perpendicular to the bolt and tighten as normal! Of course this isn't for applications that require high strength, but should work for this purpose. If you drilled the threads on this the right way, you would just have to push down on the handle to make it release the bolt.

Darryl, my post wasn't terribly friendly to Anatol, but it's sort of a general complaint about entry level presses in general. It seems to me that there are often far too many compromises made to make a press entry level. It sort of reminds me of what Porsche did with the cayman. They wanted a car that would hit a price point between the 911 and the boxster. So they built a car that was exactly halfway in between the two existing cars in terms of both performance and price. That's what this seems like to me. As in, while most entry level presses are made with the small shop in mind ie size and power requirements, it seems like some of them have features that aren't included that could help the small shop and seem like they are only left off to differentiate the entry level press from the more costly presses.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2013, 02:31:14 PM »
Stu, I really just mess with folks about Anatol, but my Horizon Mini has a ton of good features found on some bigger presses.  I got what I paid for and it has done a great job for me, but there must be something about the entry level and small presses' or M&R wouldn't brother building there own line.  Can anatol step up the service yes they could, could they have more of an online present yes they could etc. I would buy another Anatol in a heart beat, I would also buy an M&R too, I think they both are fine companies with M&R having a go getter as there lead Dog.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2013, 02:57:35 PM »
I didn't mean all entry level presses necessarily. From what I can tell, you can get air choppers and AC heads on all the sRoque presses down to the least expensive. Though it sounds like there is a significant gap in price maybe?

I must say though, part of why I have this bent is partly from privilege. When it comes time to replace my american, I have all the electrics, air and space that I would need to run most any press, so my options can include less expensive used non-entry level presses.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2013, 03:07:51 PM »
I forgot to add the quick-release button. Loosen the kip lever and hit the button so the spring raises the clamp lol. I have no idea how the kip lever would engage the shaft (heh heh) but I'm just a thinker, not a doer.

It's a decent idea.  I've seen something similar in Parks headset/headtube tools.  Check out an HTR-1, one side that threads on has a sprung female side, so you'd only have to turn the knob once or less to snug.   Gotta make the interface long to handle that kind of torque though.

I'd think a cam system would be the fastest without using air/solenoids, but only if you're running all the same frame sizes/thicknesses...


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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2013, 03:12:22 PM »
I didn't mean all entry level presses necessarily. From what I can tell, you can get air choppers and AC heads on all the sRoque presses down to the least expensive. Though it sounds like there is a significant gap in price maybe?

I must say though, part of why I have this bent is partly from privilege. When it comes time to replace my american, I have all the electrics, air and space that I would need to run most any press, so my options can include less expensive used non-entry level presses.

The least expensive S.Roque press the Amiga has pneumatic print heads, if you want it with AC heads it is then the YOU. They all have air choppers from what I know. They do not advertise a all electric press.
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2013, 04:50:33 PM »
They make a c clamp with a quick release that works similar to what you are saying.

http://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/clamps/6-inch-quick-release-c-clamp-4140.html

I have one, it's not without its flaws, but it is harbor freight.  Push the button and the threads are disengaged, release and tighten.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2013, 05:11:58 PM »
Yeah I have seen those.  After a little re-(not)engineering. This attached pic is a better cheaper option. Double pinch buttons for two sided thread release and bump knob on top has either mini levers or some knurling to grip.

This is all really just me filling space until we get to see some more details on the Volt lol there's no way this thread was going to stay on topic without more juice!

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2013, 05:22:22 PM »
I've used these quick hold-down clamps for a couple projects.
Cheap and easy to operate... they'd hold a screen nicely, if you had the physical space.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Horizontal-Handle-Hold-Down-Clamp-11A050?cm_sp=IO-_-IDP-_-RR_VTV70300505&cm_vc=IDPRRZ1

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2013, 05:28:52 PM »
Ok, changed the design again and have surpassed my 3D capabilities in illustrator.  This one would be a quick release lever that you lift UP and it moves the opposite thread section away and allows the spring to pull the plunger up.

Bump the knurled knob down then snap lever DOWN to engage the threads and crank down. So a bump, bump, twist. This way, you don't run the risk of thread disengagement when cranking down if you overcome the previous design's spring tension holding the threads against the plunger. Check out the sweet dove-tailed slides lol:


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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2013, 07:25:51 PM »
You guys are great,  you are in the wrong business!  Too smart to be screen printers!  I thought screen printing was for college dropouts, stoners, and Pierre! ;D
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2013, 10:05:34 AM »
You guys are great,  you are in the wrong business!  Too smart to be screen printers!  I thought screen printing was for college dropouts, stoners, and Pierre! ;D

just spit my coffee...thanks asshat hahah
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