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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2013, 03:59:57 PM »
I spent 30 minutes at their booth at the ISS Ft Worth show and there was no mention of this new press.  Looking back on that I'm fairly certain the distributor and Anatol rep had no knowledge of this or they are very good at keeping secrets since we talked specifically about the all electric Brown a few rows away.   I'd like to see how they are working the choppers and see how pressure is regulated.  If it's simply regulated by how far the squeegee goes down, then I couldn't use it for a lot of what we do.  Dark ink, light shirts, no problem, but when it comes to maximizing opacity for a specific ink I need control over downward force.   Is that a giant monitor on that thing or is the press that small, bad photoshop perhaps?  I saw the Aries system up close, the step back feature, etc. and like I've always said, the machines...not that bad.  They were doing a nice little sim process job on it using the step back, and for the one man show who has more than he wants to do manually then printing 150-200 dark shirts an hour is freaking awesome.

So close, yet so, so very far away.

Looks like from the pic above that the choppers still have depth adjusters, so I'd guess "pressure" can be knocked down/up individually. No screen is too big lol I want the Aries OS on my 2004 Trident, that'd be bad-ace rather than drilling down through the menus to adjust parameters.

Gilligan, we get it, you hate Anatol  :-*


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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2013, 04:03:02 PM »

So close, yet so, so very far away.

Alan you are a wordsmith! SO much of the frustration I had with them can be summed up by that! Brilliant!
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2013, 04:12:39 PM »
As a person who has a press that uses mechanical rather than pneumatic means to operate the choppers, why? Seriously, how much air would choppers for such a small press take?

After taking a look at the sRoque site, since I didn't see air consumption listed in the documentation for the M&R presses for some reason, it looks like the biggest (12/10) of these Anatol presses would take a whopping 5 cfm. Taken from here, http://www.sroque.pt/products/screen-printing-machines/roqprint-basic/ notice that I am taking the number from the notes at the bottom of the spec tab since I think that the 8.9 cfm + number of print heads is if you go full air.  A compressor that can support more than 5 cfm isn't very expensive, especially if you buy used.

On it's operation, I can only guess, but it looks like the choppers are on some sort of rocker that is operated via a single solenoid with adjustable stops to vary pressure. My american operates like this, sans solenoid and if I didn't get it so cheap, I wouldn't put up with it. I don't know how much this anatol will go for, but I bet it's more than $1500. Also the print area on my american is a fair bit larger.

Alan, it's possible to print pretty much anything, I have even done stacked hd ink, but it may take you for-ever to set up. Though single stroke whites would certainly be an issue I suppose.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2013, 04:22:21 PM »
I spent 30 minutes at their booth at the ISS Ft Worth show and there was no mention of this new press.  Looking back on that I'm fairly certain the distributor and Anatol rep had no knowledge of this or they are very good at keeping secrets since we talked specifically about the all electric Brown a few rows away.   I'd like to see how they are working the choppers and see how pressure is regulated.  If it's simply regulated by how far the squeegee goes down, then I couldn't use it for a lot of what we do.  Dark ink, light shirts, no problem, but when it comes to maximizing opacity for a specific ink I need control over downward force.   Is that a giant monitor on that thing or is the press that small, bad photoshop perhaps?  I saw the Aries system up close, the step back feature, etc. and like I've always said, the machines...not that bad.  They were doing a nice little sim process job on it using the step back, and for the one man show who has more than he wants to do manually then printing 150-200 dark shirts an hour is freaking awesome.

So close, yet so, so very far away.

Looks like from the pic above that the choppers still have depth adjusters, so I'd guess "pressure" can be knocked down/up individually. No screen is too big lol I want the Aries OS on my 2004 Trident, that'd be bad-ace rather than drilling down through the menus to adjust parameters.

Gilligan, we get it, you hate Anatol  :-*

No, honestly that was my assessment of their booth... it was very awkward.  They seemed to be sharing a space with Excalibur Inks... who also had that awkward feel... first time we talked to them it was kids and didn't feel like they had a clue.  Then we spoke with the actual rep, maybe more than a rep and he clearly had knowledge.  I don't remember talking to the anatol guy and only remembered the kids kind of bouncing around the press.  Could just be a fuzzy memory though.

My dislike of Anatol only happened VERY recently... no bias, they are 100% behind the problem.  I was always open to getting an Anatol press up until about a week ago.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2013, 05:48:57 PM »
I think there was an Anatol guy in the booth but it was mainly a supplier/distributor running the booth.  I didn't mention earlier but it was a Titan they were showing.  I wish I would have spent more time analyzing the press but I like chatting and talking shop and that's what we did most of the time.  I only spoke directly with the supplier and his wife and not the person who I think was the rep but he was listening in on the conversation.  The guy I thought was the Anatol rep did not look familiar nor did he introduce himself but I did catch him staring at my badge a few times.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2013, 06:18:25 PM »
Alan, did they mention anything about the new tag printer they are supposed to be releasing?
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2013, 07:12:04 PM »
Hey Alan, thanks for stopping by the booth and talking shop. I enjoy talking shop, probably way too much :) I was actually hoping you would get a chance to stop back by the booth and get a better look at the Titan. If you are ever up this way in Arlington and want to stop by and take a up close look at one, the door is always open to you and anyone else that may want to.

Gilligan, I am sorry that we gave you an awkward feeling at our booth, I do apologize for that. If there is something or a question I can help you with, please feel free to ask.

And since I was in the neighborhood here is the info on the tag printer

*NEW* Introducing Anatol's new automatic small-format textile printer.
- Maximum image area 6" x 6"
- Maximum screen size 10" x 25"
- 1 - 4 colors
- 6 - 10 stations
- Servo indexer
- Pneumatic print heads
- 8" touchscreen operating system
- Quick release squeegees & flood bars
- Adjustable stroke & flood speed
- Adjustable dwell setting
- Double print stroke setting
- Adjustable flash time & intensity
- Automatic t-shirt sensor
- Foot pedal option
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2013, 07:51:48 PM »
Hey Alan, thanks for stopping by the booth and talking shop. I enjoy talking shop, probably way too much :) I was actually hoping you would get a chance to stop back by the booth and get a better look at the Titan. If you are ever up this way in Arlington and want to stop by and take a up close look at one, the door is always open to you and anyone else that may want to.

Gilligan, I am sorry that we gave you an awkward feeling at our booth, I do apologize for that. If there is something or a question I can help you with, please feel free to ask.

And since I was in the neighborhood here is the info on the tag printer

*NEW* Introducing Anatol's new automatic small-format textile printer.
- Maximum image area 6" x 6"
- Maximum screen size 10" x 25"
- 1 - 4 colors
- 6 - 10 stations
- Servo indexer
- Pneumatic print heads
- 8" touchscreen operating system
- Quick release squeegees & flood bars
- Adjustable stroke & flood speed
- Adjustable dwell setting
- Double print stroke setting
- Adjustable flash time & intensity
- Automatic t-shirt sensor
- Foot pedal option

Whats the starting price on that puppy?
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2013, 08:47:52 PM »
Tag Printer list price.
Starts @ $11,900.00

Gonna have one at the SGIA show in Orlando as well as the all electric Volt, a Titan and Horizon.
If your in the area stop by and say hi :)
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2013, 09:12:08 PM »
Looks like the volt's screen clamps need to be manually tightened like the Brown. There has to be a way to get something similar to the air clamps on an electric press.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2013, 09:13:50 PM »
I heard rumbles the Volt may start at as much as $30k, is that at all accurate? That kind of a price (provided it is accurate) doesn't really jive with the entry level press category....
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2013, 09:23:58 PM »
Pretty close,
The Volt starts @ 28K for a 6/5
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2013, 09:53:33 PM »
You sir have been a good sport. anatol should be happy to have someone like you representing them!
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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2013, 10:00:04 PM »
Well if you take into consideration that a6/5 all air Titan will run you about 21k, the volt isn't that bad once you get a compressor, chiller, plumbing and electrical work done it is probably close to the same.

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Re: All electric Anatol automatic...
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2013, 10:16:28 PM »
You sir have been a good sport. anatol should be happy to have someone like you representing them!

I truly appreciate the kind words. Thank You
got more ?'s for me :)

Well if you take into consideration that a6/5 all air Titan will run you about 21k, the volt isn't that bad once you get a compressor, chiller, plumbing and electrical work done it is probably close to the same.

Yes, your right it is about the same all things considered. I think the really nice thing is no compressor to listen to. After installing a lot of Titans into garages, the one thing everyone has said is they wish they could get away from the noise of that compressor or they are crossing their fingers that the neighbors won't get upset with them running that late night, got to go job.
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