Sportsman EX 10/12

[tancehughes]

I realize that this is a semi-unnecessary question, because I already know what I think about M&R and their equipment, but I just want to get some feedback from anyone that currently owns a Sportsman EX 10/12.

What kind of real world speeds are you experiencing when printing with your Sportsman? Where are you placing your two flashes?

I currently have an all-air Diamondback 6/8, so I've never had servo drive either.

[TCT]

Servos are the bees knees when coming from all air!!!!!! Youngin'

[easyscore]

Have used one. Depending on the set-up I usually had the flashes in head 2 and head 8.
Depending on the number of colors you're printing I would place the flash in head 3 and rotate printing on head 1 and 2.
Usually the print counts on 1 and 10 are the most compared to every other head.

[tancehughes]

See I was thinking flashes in 2 and 7, and yeah I am really really excited about eventually getting a servo press....

Also our dback maxes out at 480/hour printing, so we're really hoping to see some major increase in printing speed!

[GraphicDisorder]

We are not the fastest printers here for sure.  We run 30-50dz, most often 1 operator (loading and unloading).  Machine will run over 70dz a hour.  Ours is just a 8/10 though, not a 10/12. 

[screenprintguy]

Brandt, what is the actual max print dimensions that you have been able to pull off on the Sporty? I know guys that haven't read posts from a couple years back when you got it will be shocked to see how much you have gotten outside of the actual specs as far as max image size.

Thanks

Mike

[GraphicDisorder]

Brandt, what is the actual max print dimensions that you have been able to pull off on the Sporty? I know guys that haven't read posts from a couple years back when you got it will be shocked to see how much you have gotten outside of the actual specs as far as max image size.

Thanks

Mike

Rated 20x20.  We have never tired any wide prints past 15, but we print 23 tall with NO issues at all.  If you wanted to run real slow you could probably do slightly more. 

[screenprintguy]

Thanks for the replay Brandt! I know a lot of guys that their presses say 18"  max depth, and they have to actually play around with angles on their squeegees and floods to get the max, good to know you have actually pulled off prints a few inches easily deeper than spec'd without having to rig your print head!!

[GraphicDisorder]

Thanks for the replay Brandt! I know a lot of guys that their presses say 18"  max depth, and they have to actually play around with angles on their squeegees and floods to get the max, good to know you have actually pulled off prints a few inches easily deeper than spec'd without having to rig your print head!!

Ya thats with NO fancy tricks with squeegee/flood.

[screenprintguy]

It's funny how many times someone ends up at the counter here talking about AOP printing for them, and then when you actually show them an image printed 20" wide and 22" tall, they freak out at how huge it actually is. Most walk in orders would never pay the extra doe to go for a "true" AOP, we do some multi locational stuff on occasion, but right now we are limited to 17" tall, 15.5" wide on our DB and have to do anything larger on the manual which now I try to avoid at all costs, too dam back breaking. I tore my back up doing 22x24 printing for a guys indi label here and had to stop printing for him a couple years back since all of his designs were at that size and he was a "contract" customer. Just took too long with too much effort for the end invoices. Now, if I had that Sporty, I may have been able to swing that =). Really looking forward to seeing how this new hybrid Sporty/Challenger comes out.

[dirkdiggler]

on a 10 color press I would suggest only 1 flash.  You are wasting 4 heads with 2 flashes.  IMO, 2 flashes are for 12 color press or larger.  Just my 2 cents.

[mk162]

dirk, I disagree about the flashes.  it's never a bad thing to have an extra for several reasons...1, in case you are running a 3 color job that needs 2 flashs, and second, a backup is always nice.

[DannyGruninger]

Not to sidetrack but in my shop I have 3 red chili flashes between our 12 col and 8 color autos and we are constantly wheeling our flash from the 12 color over to the 8 for various jobs that require a flash before a top white or many other reasons so I would certainly suggest having 2 flashes for a 10 col machine. Get something not attached to a head so you can wheel it out and use the head if needed.

[GraphicDisorder]

We even have a second flash for our 8 color. 

[beanie357]

Multi flashes are useful. We even put 2 on our 6 once in a while. Can't see how one on a 10 makes for efficient production, but would like to know more why one is adequate for my info.