tone on tone

[Croft]

I remember seeing a post on "tone on tone " look on multiple colours of shirts and the person I think used a base with 5% black but not 100% sure. Tried a search but couldn't find. Any help would be appreciated.

[mimosatexas]

Can you explain a little more what you mean.  I'm not familiar with the term "tone on tone".

[Croft]

there was a post with a pic of 4 or 5 different tee colors , and the image behind the main design was the same colour this base + black? but on each color shirt it looked like a darker version of the shirt colour so for example red tee with a dark red shadow , dallas green tee with dark green shadow etc

[Croft]

there was also a formula for the mix in the post

[shellyky]

discharge or plastisol?  like you said, it could be archived with a 5-10% halftone dot of black...we'd done that before for tone on tone

[starchild]

That post was by Tonypep if that helps..

[Croft]

plastisol , thanks for the post info , I'll look again 

[JBLUE]

We print these all the time. I know I posted something up but cant find it. We use anywhere between 5-20% color and the rest soft hand clear or curable reducer depending on the effect we want. 90% of the time it is a transparent white or transparent black that we mix. On tri blends and 50/50's you can also play with the heat to get it to sublimate into the ink a little bit more adding to the effect and make very difficult for other printers to replicate.

It produces a waterbase type feel with very little to almost no hand on the print. Use high mesh counts and triple duro blades for the best results.

[Croft]

We print these all the time. I know I posted something up but cant find it. We use anywhere between 5-20% color and the rest soft hand clear or curable reducer depending on the effect we want. 90% of the time it is a transparent white or transparent black that we mix. On tri blends and 50/50's you can also play with the heat to get it to sublimate into the ink a little bit more adding to the effect and make very difficult for other printers to replicate.

It produces a waterbase type feel with very little to almost no hand on the print. Use high mesh counts and triple duro blades for the best results.

Thanks I'll  give it a try

[Frog]

We print these all the time. I know I posted something up but cant find it. We use anywhere between 5-20% color and the rest soft hand clear or curable reducer depending on the effect we want. 90% of the time it is a transparent white or transparent black that we mix. On tri blends and 50/50's you can also play with the heat to get it to sublimate into the ink a little bit more adding to the effect and make very difficult for other printers to replicate.

It produces a waterbase type feel with very little to almost no hand on the print. Use high mesh counts and triple duro blades for the best results.

I think that the thing that made this particular post and pics was that rather than the usual mixing of a based down similkar color of the shirt, these guys used the same mix on an assortment of shirts.

I think that it was probably a black, so that the each shirt took on a "seeing the near phantom image through gray sunglasses" look.
It also was only a component in the overall design, as the background.

My use of this has always been standalone, and yes, enjoyed a mild popularity when the soft hand demand first broke.

[kingscreen]

The thread you're looking for: http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,7285.0.html

[Grumpy Ole Artist]

Simply print un colored base...works on just about any color...Looks cool as a background element. Makes a color a few shades darker than the shirt color (tonal)

[Frog]

Okay, Tony's was discharge. (shoulda' known)
All bets off as plastisol application except as already noted.

Maybe someone has some plastisol examples to post.

[starchild]

Lon winters has a video doing this with plastisol white mixed with 50% curable reducer-

Faux Water Base Screen Printing Effect

In this vid he uses 30% white and 70% curable reducer (he did the actual mixing in part 2 of the vid at the ending)

Screen Printing seminar with Graphic Elephants - Part 3 of 5

[Ryan]

we mix white with curable reducer to print on the darker color shirts, usually 50/50 ratio or less (more curable reducer), for lighter color shirts, we will often go with curable reducer and black though the quantity of black is far less than we use on white, 10% or less. The white gives a better tone on tone look in my opinion as the black mix still will have the grey tone to it. Suggest mixing up different ratios and see what you like
~Ryan