Pierre aka Blue Moon's press experience?

[screenprintguy]

Thanks for that input EB!!

[TCT]

I will pay attention to that for sure Rich, thanks!

Ok so, so far what it looks like, is the M&R Challenger 3 is the only press that screen frames "only" move when the head is activated. Allowing one to possibly have another job or two on the machine without any worries of the screen coming down and touching, without having to do any other types of special adjustments to avoid that. I know the Roq looks like you move a handle and the print head doesn't travel as much. So with that said, being the fact that the C3's print heads as a whole only function if activated would say over all there is less wear on parts. Like if the MHM frames always move up and down, those parts are always getting wear and tear regardless if the head is in use or not, something for folks to think about. The Roq doesn't have any of those parts as it's 1 motor moving all of the frames up and down, but you could be screwed if that 1 motor goes out, all heads are down. I'm sure that motor is very reliable, but that might be the one costly part a high production shop with those presses should have handy. I know coming up with a motor sometimes isn't easy over night. I know we got off topic here, but I think this is very useful info folks looking into new machines. Like my friends, there are a ton of watchers who don't sign up to the forums, they just read. So getting a bit in depth about what certain presses actually do, I think, is good. Up till now, I had no clue that all screen frames on an MHM moved all the time, I assumed they were only active when activated. Reminds me of the "all heads chop" on our DB, which I personally can't stand, but they did away with that on newer models, which is a huge improvement, along with a servo indexer, Still the DB for it's price is a money making machine as it's been the drive for us. But back to the topic, it seems, no matter what machine you have, in the end, when you have enough daily use, all the machines need to be adjusted, and if done properly, might not be a monthly thing, more of an annual maintenance thing. Thanks everyone for being cool on this thread and giving your honest input from your daily, yearly, experiences with your gear!

Mike

The S.Roque "Amigia" and "YOU" raise all the print heads. The ECO and their OVAL models only raise the actual head being printed. This was one of the things on my list as well. When I had it narrowed down the M&R machine that was closest to the S.Roque ECO was the "CHALLENGER III 70" I believe.

If you or anyone else want's I could have one of the guys take a video on their phone today of the individual head print.

[ebscreen]

My old Auto-Rototex II would also only drop the printing heads. Very similar to the Roques, more of a pivot.

[mk162]

ha, i met the southeast sales rep for Festo on vacation.  Reminds me, I need to call him and order some parts...super helpful guy.

[Sbrem]

we frequently set up multiple jobs on the S type, no issues with scraping against the other screens

Steve