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Offline Itsa Little CrOoked

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NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« on: July 18, 2013, 09:56:37 AM »
I order Nylabond from my supplier, and after it's been opened for use, the remainder is unusable in record time.

Is there any solution for this?  Different product?  Something I might find in a local Paint Supplier? (doubtful)

Vacuum sealing in a Mason Jar?

Skip to 1:10 if you're busy, but you could poke your hole in the top of the metal mason jar lid, put the little "bandaid" valve (BRILLIANT invention and re-usable) over the hole and pull 29+ inches of vacuum on an opened Nylabond container sitting inside the Mason Jar, if you have a decent vacuum pump. (I do....)
 
Rene Oswald--Extending the Life of Raw Foods with the Pump-N-Seal
 

I oughta just try this and report back, but my Robinar Vacuum Pump is boxed up. (and truth is, I'm not sure where I stored it.) Those little Pump "N" Seal "bandaids" are a neat. Imagine a Vinyl Bandaid with a SMOOTH center of RTV silicone in the center that seals the pinhole against the vacuum. They are elegantly simple, and perform flawlessly.



I've seen....um....solutions to similar oxidation problems by using nitrogen. (I don't have any nitrogen and can easily see a $1000.00 solution to a $10.00 problem. Not unfamiliar territory...  ;))


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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 10:07:55 AM »
Somewhere along the line, I learned to store it upside down and in the fridge.
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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 10:08:40 AM »
was it international coatings? I used that one once too hardened in the container, also turned the ink it was mixed in to concrete lol.
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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 10:13:30 AM »
Andy,

Does it keep better that way?  I mean, like several weeks maybe?

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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2013, 10:24:08 AM »
was it international coatings? I used that one once too hardened in the container, also turned the ink it was mixed in to concrete lol.

Yep. Exactly.  ICC 900 I think was the name, but I can't find one right now. If I didn't throw them out, I'd have a bunch of little polymer bricks lying around, waiting to be launched out of a cannon.

If another product or just a different brand works okay, and stores longer than the ICC, COUNT ME IN!
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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 10:31:08 AM »
I have not needed it for a couple of years, but yes, I used to get a few months easy! (I seem to remember six)

By storing upside down, the part that messes up due to contact with air is now on the bottom, and not an issue. Sure, you still lose a bit, but most still remains usable for an extended time.

And I found the IC and Union's Nylobond about the same.

And ICC and IC are not the same company. They, along with CCI, are part of the alphabet wars conspiricy to confuse us Screen Printers , LOL!
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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2013, 10:33:00 AM »
Stored  a quart bottle of NB-70 in my climate controlled screen room for several years. Maybe low humidity and low exposure to light is the secret?
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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2013, 10:34:16 AM »
I have some IC 900 that has been in the dark room that hasn't been used in at least 9 months and still good. I know if I leave a bottle out in open light it hardens quickly.

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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 10:37:52 AM »
Assuming that the light in my fridge did indeed go out, there's another plus!
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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 10:42:46 AM »
Well I've been doing it all wrong then.

No fridge,
No upside down,
No dark enviornment.

My unnamed vendor told me to just buy the smallest container I needed for the job, and figure the rest was disposable. So that's what I did for 4 years.

Why I didn't ask sooner, I'll never know.

Orion, who makes the NB-70?  Is that Union? 


And Binkspot, what size of container was that?  I most often buy the 2 oz, so that might be a variable I need to consider.

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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 10:48:57 AM »
NB-70 is NazDar. We used to use it a lot for getting general purpose (air dry) inks to stick to Plexi-Glass. It also works for nylon jackets, but we prefer the Nylo-Bond for that. We keep it in the fridge...

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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 10:57:27 AM »
Try soaking the bottle in hot water...I seem to remember that it will return to the liquid state.
If it's so easy, you do it.

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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 11:27:41 AM »
we use the Union product and it will last 6-9 months on the shelf when stored up side down . . .

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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2013, 11:37:11 AM »
8 oz bottle

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Re: NylaBond. !@&?#%$!
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2013, 11:38:53 AM »
I squeeze the air out of the bottle and then recap.  It's just like a vacuum only much easier.