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Offline ericheartsu

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what chemicals should i try?
« on: June 24, 2013, 02:00:45 PM »
After talking to a friend today about Chemistry i'm wondering what i should try. Right now i'm using Bean-e-doo for plastisol, Air dry cleaner for my flatstock stuff (acrylic/uv), CCI enviroline for discharge/waterbased ink, CCI liquid renuit, Franmar degreaser, and CCI Genzyme for emulsion remover.

What else should i try for plastisol inks, dehazing, and degreasing?
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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 02:25:18 PM »
We have been moving into Saati chems.

We are using CCI micro wash 2 in the dip tank but as soon as it dies trying the Saati ER2.

Ink remover and degreaser is Saati IR 18. Much more friendly then the Bob's we have been using.

The PW4 on press color changes and cleaning screens.

So far very happy with it.

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 02:31:50 PM »
I buy Franmar stuff, bean-e-do, onestep, ickee-stickee unstuck.  The only thing I am using that isn't Franmar is Simple Green, only because I can buy that just about anywhere.

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 02:34:51 PM »
Gemzyne rules in the dip tank, works very well and lasts forever.  Emulsion stripper is easy- just find the best deal on the highest concentration of sodium periodate and dilute to taste.  Word is that a liquid concentrate is actually more cost efficient and I found that to be true when comparing all the various strippers and pricing.

We like CCI's Envirosolve for ink removal- works well for us on plastisol and wb.  Very affordable by the 5gal.  The water based nature of it is a little wasteful since it runs off very quickly but if it works in a recirc that could solve that minor issue. Not sure if it can be recirculated though since it tends to suds up. 

For on press changes of plastisol we use Franmar Color Change and then just water and a little simple green where needed for WB.

For dehaze I really prefer Franmar d-haze gel as it's the only gel formula I can find.  I don't like dehazer running around (it's not cheap so no need to waste it) and getting at the frame tape and gumming it up.

We use a standalone degreaser and CCI's enviro degreaser has been doing fine for us- smells like candy.



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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 03:09:32 PM »
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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 03:09:57 PM »
we just switched over to CCI micro wash for the tank, took less chems and works better than what we were using in the past, in the past we had, supra by easy way, then went to one step clear by franmar, then for a few years had SPA solution which is re-labled kor-kem one step. The mirco wash was cheaper than all the rest and took less, we will see how long we can push it, but so far my reclaim guy loves it. Also switched to CCI inkwash 107. It's stronger than easy way 701, half the cost as well. Leaves no residue, we still over kill and use CCI nutralize at the very end of each screen's process and never have fisheye issues. We've been very please with CCI. The only non CCI chem we are using right now is Franmar beenie doo for the actual ink degradant. It's awesome, even in parts washer instead of mineral spirits, does wonders on liquifying plastisol, and eco friendly being soybean oil, great low cost stuff.
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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 03:42:33 PM »
We have been moving into Saati chems.

We are using CCI micro wash 2 in the dip tank but as soon as it dies trying the Saati ER2.

Ink remover and degreaser is Saati IR 18. Much more friendly then the Bob's we have been using.

The PW4 on press color changes and cleaning screens.

So far very happy with it.

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 04:20:16 PM »
Try the CCI IW-107 for plastisol ink remover, dehazer and degreaser combo

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 07:34:22 PM »
Try the CCI IW-107 for plastisol ink remover, dehazer and degreaser combo
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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 06:45:30 AM »
We have been moving into Saati chems.

We are using CCI micro wash 2 in the dip tank but as soon as it dies trying the Saati ER2.

Ink remover and degreaser is Saati IR 18. Much more friendly then the Bob's we have been using.

The PW4 on press color changes and cleaning screens.

So far very happy with it.

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2013, 11:47:20 AM »
We've been using ICC chemicals for a few years now been great price just keeps jumping up.

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 02:19:22 PM »
We've been using ICC chemicals for a few years now been great price just keeps jumping up.

Darryl

I was thinking the same thing a couple years ago--then I wasted a bunch of time trying to find something better for the same price, now I'm right back to 936/937.  I guess if it always works great maybe it's worth a few extra bucks...


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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 02:31:11 PM »
Easiway all the way.
I just use Color Change from Franmar.

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2013, 03:34:46 PM »
I've been using the ICC 931 for ink and 937 for emulsion, buying in bulk hurts the wallet, but in the long run it last longer.

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Re: what chemicals should i try?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2013, 04:24:28 PM »
We've been using ICC chemicals for a few years now been great price just keeps jumping up.

Darryl

I was thinking the same thing a couple years ago--then I wasted a bunch of time trying to find something better for the same price, now I'm right back to 936/937.  I guess if it always works great maybe it's worth a few extra bucks...

We've been using ICC screen chemicals for a long, long time. On press, the Spray & Wipe that dries quickly works great. Has a large load factor, can be very economical.

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