Input on used retensionables

[inkman996]

You don't have time to clean a frame.

You have time to spew your pompous bs all over the forum.

Does not compute.

OK I am going to beat Brandt to this one.

Me being Brandt

"I have thirty monitors, 20 massive over powered computers, voice recognition software, unlimited supply of internet images, in fact my computers are so smart they sense the image I am thinking of and produce it for me. I work at my computers all day long surrounded by monitors, no phones to distract me and I can type "think" forum responses as my hands are rendering graphics all at the same time."

Sound about right Brandt

All above meant as a joke of course.

[GraphicDisorder]

You don't have time to clean a frame.

You have time to spew your pompous bs all over the forum.

Does not compute.

OK I am going to beat Brandt to this one.

Me being Brandt

"I have thirty monitors, 20 massive over powered computers, voice recognition software, unlimited supply of internet images, in fact my computers are so smart they sense the image I am thinking of and produce it for me. I work at my computers all day long surrounded by monitors, no phones to distract me and I can type "think" forum responses as my hands are rendering graphics all at the same time."

Sound about right Brandt

All above meant as a joke of course.

You forgot my thermonuclear reactor, or something.  No worries though I can take a joke and I can also multitask at a computer. 

[alan802]

My posts are for those who will listen to those who have been there and done that.  Those who think they know how great a new roller frame versus an old used roller frame without ever having dealt with either of them should probably take the advice of so many guys who have done it before.  If you take nothing from this entire thread other than you got a guy like Daryll mad then just know you've managed to do something I thought impossible.  Even in the nastiest of threads D has managed to keep cool and try to keep the peace yet you've pissed him off.  That should tell you something. 

There are quite a few guys on this forum that know WTF they're doing and what they are talking about, then there are guys who want to know all they can, then there are the ones that really don't know what they don't know but think they've got it all figured out.  Just because you've managed to make a buck in this industry up until now doesn't mean you're doing things the right way, or that you've made all the best decisions and you don't have more to learn, yet that's what it sounds like so often.  I don't need to be on here trying to help people, I spend 80 hours a week dealing with screen printing in some form or fashion without this but I do it because I like to not see other people make the same F'ing mistakes that I made the first few years.  I no longer wonder why some of the old timers that could do the most good on the forums no longer even mess with them.

[TCT]

I promise I am not posting these pics to start things up, I just said I would. Plus, Brandt agreed to stop emailing me asking me if I would sell him any used ones I didn't want.

Here is the worst shape one out of the 40 I picked up:




In this case, I am happy with the purchase($25ea.) but I too like Brandt will not buy some things used.... Food is the first item that comes to mind!

[blue moon]

wait, I don't see the MHM pins on them. Were these not from SPSI?

pierre

[TCT]

wait, I don't see the MHM pins on them. Were these not from SPSI?

pierre

No sir, SPSI should still have the ones with the MHM pins, you may be able to get yourself a heck of a deal! From my understanding those MHM pins cost a few bucks...

[GraphicDisorder]

My posts are for those who will listen to those who have been there and done that.  Those who think they know how great a new roller frame versus an old used roller frame without ever having dealt with either of them should probably take the advice of so many guys who have done it before.  If you take nothing from this entire thread other than you got a guy like Daryll mad then just know you've managed to do something I thought impossible.  Even in the nastiest of threads D has managed to keep cool and try to keep the peace yet you've pissed him off.  That should tell you something. 

There are quite a few guys on this forum that know WTF they're doing and what they are talking about, then there are guys who want to know all they can, then there are the ones that really don't know what they don't know but think they've got it all figured out.  Just because you've managed to make a buck in this industry up until now doesn't mean you're doing things the right way, or that you've made all the best decisions and you don't have more to learn, yet that's what it sounds like so often.  I don't need to be on here trying to help people, I spend 80 hours a week dealing with screen printing in some form or fashion without this but I do it because I like to not see other people make the same F'ing mistakes that I made the first few years.  I no longer wonder why some of the old timers that could do the most good on the forums no longer even mess with them.

Alan what you do for the industry is awesome, said it over and over.  Period. 

Again context, I have zero problem with people pointing out other ways to do things, which is drastically different than zeroing in on me and making a reply referencing me or my situation then telling me how they would do it, then repeating it over and over or teaming up.  If you don't see the difference I don't know what to tell you.  People do this because they actually want to create drama.  If they didn't they wouldn't quote me, reference me, my shop, or my situation.  But they do, over and over with the same result.  Like this thread almost 100% of the time I didn't even ask for a opinion or help in my statement if I should buy new or used, I actually made a very absolute statement.  It's not complicated, if I have it wrong, let me do it wrong if I haven't asked for help.

I read posts on this site every day, often every one of them.  I note info from people I respect. I noted your stance on the new vs used.  In my situation, ill take new.  I like new things and that reason alone is enough for me.  You or others don't have to agree and I don't understand the need to justify anything to you guys on what I do with MY money in MY business.  Learning?  In my life I've learned I've had better results from new, which is why I prefer new.  I don't doubt others have had a different experience.  Notice how I said I and didn't suggest everyone do it my way.

If D is actually pissed off that's mind blowing to me and he has my apologies if so.

[ebscreen]

This issue comes up with you what, once a month Brandt? Maybe even more frequently?
Hundreds of different people having the exact same problem with YOU and yet it's
everyone else's fault and not yours? You can't honestly believe that right?

Even this bewildering semi-apologetic post comes off as angry and confrontational?

Maybe it's time to re-evaluate your life?


In terms of forum health I think you're a suck. Just personally speaking, I try and help people
from anything I learn and all of the boneheaded eff ups I've made along the way. (get a post exposure
dip tank if you don't have one, you can even just use a garbage can) I, personally, am WAY less inclined to
try and help people or even post at all when there's folks like you around.


I mean you basically come into any thread and and start arguments. Damn near every time. You bait people
with statements meant to anger and then hide behind the excuse of everyone else ganging up on you
when you damn well know the things you are saying are intended to piss people off. That's childish and
cowardly and will ruin open discussion every damn time. And there's another term for it. Troll.

Sack up and stop with the BS. If you can't restrain yourself go somewhere else. We don't need you.

[GraphicDisorder]

This issue comes up with you what, once a month Brandt? Maybe even more frequently?
Hundreds of different people having the exact same problem with YOU and yet it's
everyone else's fault and not yours? You can't honestly believe that right?

Even this bewildering semi-apologetic post comes off as angry and confrontational?

Maybe it's time to re-evaluate your life?


In terms of forum health I think you're a suck. Just personally speaking, I try and help people
from anything I learn and all of the boneheaded eff ups I've made along the way. (get a post exposure
dip tank if you don't have one, you can even just use a garbage can) I, personally, am WAY less inclined to
try and help people or even post at all when there's folks like you around.


I mean you basically come into any thread and and start arguments. Damn near every time. You bait people
with statements meant to anger and then hide behind the excuse of everyone else ganging up on you
when you damn well know the things you are saying are intended to piss people off. That's childish and
cowardly and will ruin open discussion every damn time. And there's another term for it. Troll.

Sack up and stop with the BS. If you can't restrain yourself go somewhere else. We don't need you.

Wow are you seriously still going on? 

You can't really pretend my original post here was drama or trying to start a argument:

This is my battle, most of our work is 23x31's, however some jobs 25x36's.  I struggle with just maybe doing 25x36's only when I go all in on Newmans. 

But I wont do used.  I dont want someone else's problems, no matter the discount.

My post didn't suggest anything other than I (singular as in MY shop) wouldn't buy used.  I didn't try to tell ANYONE how to do it when they buy.  Why a few of you decided to jump on such a thing is odd to me.  I probably wouldn't have even been back to the thread after that point other than to read it.  But no, people quoted me and tell me how wrong I was.  I didn't ask for help, advice, or solicit an opinion in my comment, I made a absolute statement about what I will do when the time comes.  It should have been the end of it, it was for me.
 

[ebscreen]

You have had your a$$ handed to you by more than a few respected members here. Time to think outside
the box of "I'm always right". You're a goddamned troll, plain and simple. Troll elsewhere.

[bimmridder]

This is why I don't often post publicly here anymore. 25 years of experience that I love to share, but won't because of this stuff.

[GraphicDisorder]

You have had your a$$ handed to you by more than a few respected members here. Time to think outside
the box of "I'm always right". You're a goddamned troll, plain and simple. Troll elsewhere.

I am certainly not always right.  Never said such either. 

[ebscreen]

Seriously just go away. You don't help, you only hurt. Go away.

[GraphicDisorder]

Seriously just go away. You don't help, you only hurt. Go away.

Look who's trollin now

[ebscreen]

I'm honestly asking you to please just go away for the benefit of the forum.