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this might work depending on what your are defining as a "thinned out white" printfrom a previous postwe have used this method on some tee shirts to get a color washed out effect, it worked pretty good for our purpose on shirts and we only printed a few but the effect was pretty cool we thought. Here goes ........we wanted a typical black outline with a very weak black fill inside the outline such that the shirt would show through as if it were washed out over time while the outline was crisp, strong and new. Almost like a faded and worn shirt had been re-printed. We were using typical black plastisol inkStep one create the art & screens as normal, the weak inner fill black we wanted was printed as standard full black with a 195 on a piece of light embroidery backing or pellon to screen printers. You will see the first print on the pellon is weak but as you hit it one or more times it gets pretty full of ink and actually works like a stamp pad works with a rubber stamp.Now we have a piece of pellon pretty nicely charged with black ink in a crisp image of the inner ink color. Next we took a fully coated and exposed screen that contains no image, just a fully coated area way larger than the image on the pellon. Ok you may have guessed it we laid this screen on to pellon pulled a light squeegee over the screen and transferred the pellon excess ink to the bottom of the blank screen. You will need to coat the squeegee side of the screen so the squeegee slides nice, we use silicone spray...slides like a sled on snow.We then transferred this picked up image to the shirt we wanted to print leaving a very nice but weak semi transparent print of nicely faded washed out looking black image. Next we printed our normal outline and the result was just what we wanted, a faded / weak washed out looking inner effect with a crisp and dark outer image outline.It kinda looked like the shirt was washed & faded over time and then somehow reprinted with fresh ink just for the outline.
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Quote from: mooseman on June 11, 2013, 07:32:22 AMthis might work depending on what your are defining as a "thinned out white" printfrom a previous postwe have used this method on some tee shirts to get a color washed out effect, it worked pretty good for our purpose on shirts and we only printed a few but the effect was pretty cool we thought. Here goes ........we wanted a typical black outline with a very weak black fill inside the outline such that the shirt would show through as if it were washed out over time while the outline was crisp, strong and new. Almost like a faded and worn shirt had been re-printed. We were using typical black plastisol inkStep one create the art & screens as normal, the weak inner fill black we wanted was printed as standard full black with a 195 on a piece of light embroidery backing or pellon to screen printers. You will see the first print on the pellon is weak but as you hit it one or more times it gets pretty full of ink and actually works like a stamp pad works with a rubber stamp.Now we have a piece of pellon pretty nicely charged with black ink in a crisp image of the inner ink color. Next we took a fully coated and exposed screen that contains no image, just a fully coated area way larger than the image on the pellon. Ok you may have guessed it we laid this screen on to pellon pulled a light squeegee over the screen and transferred the pellon excess ink to the bottom of the blank screen. You will need to coat the squeegee side of the screen so the squeegee slides nice, we use silicone spray...slides like a sled on snow.We then transferred this picked up image to the shirt we wanted to print leaving a very nice but weak semi transparent print of nicely faded washed out looking black image. Next we printed our normal outline and the result was just what we wanted, a faded / weak washed out looking inner effect with a crisp and dark outer image outline.It kinda looked like the shirt was washed & faded over time and then somehow reprinted with fresh ink just for the outline.Mike, for the application you are describing, it's 3 screens right? 1 for the black solid to the pelon, 1 emulsion screen for the pelon pickup and transfer to shirt, and 1 for the outline on the shirt. I thought I was counting right, but just checking. Besides, it's late, lol.
Quote from: screenxpress on June 12, 2013, 12:47:05 AMQuote from: mooseman on June 11, 2013, 07:32:22 AMthis might work depending on what your are defining as a "thinned out white" printfrom a previous postwe have used this method on some tee shirts to get a color washed out effect, it worked pretty good for our purpose on shirts and we only printed a few but the effect was pretty cool we thought. Here goes ........we wanted a typical black outline with a very weak black fill inside the outline such that the shirt would show through as if it were washed out over time while the outline was crisp, strong and new. Almost like a faded and worn shirt had been re-printed. We were using typical black plastisol inkStep one create the art & screens as normal, the weak inner fill black we wanted was printed as standard full black with a 195 on a piece of light embroidery backing or pellon to screen printers. You will see the first print on the pellon is weak but as you hit it one or more times it gets pretty full of ink and actually works like a stamp pad works with a rubber stamp.Now we have a piece of pellon pretty nicely charged with black ink in a crisp image of the inner ink color. Next we took a fully coated and exposed screen that contains no image, just a fully coated area way larger than the image on the pellon. Ok you may have guessed it we laid this screen on to pellon pulled a light squeegee over the screen and transferred the pellon excess ink to the bottom of the blank screen. You will need to coat the squeegee side of the screen so the squeegee slides nice, we use silicone spray...slides like a sled on snow.We then transferred this picked up image to the shirt we wanted to print leaving a very nice but weak semi transparent print of nicely faded washed out looking black image. Next we printed our normal outline and the result was just what we wanted, a faded / weak washed out looking inner effect with a crisp and dark outer image outline.It kinda looked like the shirt was washed & faded over time and then somehow reprinted with fresh ink just for the outline.Mike, for the application you are describing, it's 3 screens right? 1 for the black solid to the pelon, 1 emulsion screen for the pelon pickup and transfer to shirt, and 1 for the outline on the shirt. I thought I was counting right, but just checking. Besides, it's late, lol.Hey Wayne, actually after I posted this initially Frog came up with a 1 screen reduction by simply combining the outline black screen and the fade black "stamp pad screen" as one. But to answer your question, yes you are counting correctlymooseman
Quote from: mooseman on June 12, 2013, 07:54:13 AMQuote from: screenxpress on June 12, 2013, 12:47:05 AMQuote from: mooseman on June 11, 2013, 07:32:22 AMthis might work depending on what your are defining as a "thinned out white" printfrom a previous postwe have used this method on some tee shirts to get a color washed out effect, it worked pretty good for our purpose on shirts and we only printed a few but the effect was pretty cool we thought. Here goes ........we wanted a typical black outline with a very weak black fill inside the outline such that the shirt would show through as if it were washed out over time while the outline was crisp, strong and new. Almost like a faded and worn shirt had been re-printed. We were using typical black plastisol inkStep one create the art & screens as normal, the weak inner fill black we wanted was printed as standard full black with a 195 on a piece of light embroidery backing or pellon to screen printers. You will see the first print on the pellon is weak but as you hit it one or more times it gets pretty full of ink and actually works like a stamp pad works with a rubber stamp.Now we have a piece of pellon pretty nicely charged with black ink in a crisp image of the inner ink color. Next we took a fully coated and exposed screen that contains no image, just a fully coated area way larger than the image on the pellon. Ok you may have guessed it we laid this screen on to pellon pulled a light squeegee over the screen and transferred the pellon excess ink to the bottom of the blank screen. You will need to coat the squeegee side of the screen so the squeegee slides nice, we use silicone spray...slides like a sled on snow.We then transferred this picked up image to the shirt we wanted to print leaving a very nice but weak semi transparent print of nicely faded washed out looking black image. Next we printed our normal outline and the result was just what we wanted, a faded / weak washed out looking inner effect with a crisp and dark outer image outline.It kinda looked like the shirt was washed & faded over time and then somehow reprinted with fresh ink just for the outline.Mike, for the application you are describing, it's 3 screens right? 1 for the black solid to the pelon, 1 emulsion screen for the pelon pickup and transfer to shirt, and 1 for the outline on the shirt. I thought I was counting right, but just checking. Besides, it's late, lol.Hey Wayne, actually after I posted this initially Frog came up with a 1 screen reduction by simply combining the outline black screen and the fade black "stamp pad screen" as one. But to answer your question, yes you are counting correctlymoosemanI did what? where? huh?
Okay, so this was back a while. This old brain doesn't remember, but I'm glad that I could help!