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Quote from: Printficient on May 27, 2013, 09:38:56 AMQuote from: ericheartsu on May 27, 2013, 09:33:55 AMQuote from: TCT on May 26, 2013, 11:35:45 PMWhich type of MHM are you thinking on? You may want to look at a S.Roque also. They were our two finalists, but for the features the S.Roque had the MHM beat by like 15% I believe it was. We got a ECO which is comparable to the S-type.I haven't even considered the S. Roque. I'll look into them. I think we were gonna get an ExtremeEric, call me. I cannot type well enough to e mail. As to the S Roque it is a copy of an MHM S Type. Nice press but still a copy. The same as the TUF press was a copy of the MHM SA. I like the I Pad control on the Xtreme.I am sorry I suggested a copy according to Printficient. I really have no vested interest or gain in either press, well that may not be totally accurate, another S.Roque would grow our numbers on the forum here to a staggering 3! And really, if we want to split hairs here Printficient, wouldn't MHM kind of be a copy of a S.Roque? Considering that S.Roque as a company has been around and making machines longer than MHM? Really I am not trying to start a pissing contest or argument here, I was just trying to give advice to a fellow printer based on my experience when deciding on a press, and having MHM being a finalist.
Quote from: ericheartsu on May 27, 2013, 09:33:55 AMQuote from: TCT on May 26, 2013, 11:35:45 PMWhich type of MHM are you thinking on? You may want to look at a S.Roque also. They were our two finalists, but for the features the S.Roque had the MHM beat by like 15% I believe it was. We got a ECO which is comparable to the S-type.I haven't even considered the S. Roque. I'll look into them. I think we were gonna get an ExtremeEric, call me. I cannot type well enough to e mail. As to the S Roque it is a copy of an MHM S Type. Nice press but still a copy. The same as the TUF press was a copy of the MHM SA. I like the I Pad control on the Xtreme.
Quote from: TCT on May 26, 2013, 11:35:45 PMWhich type of MHM are you thinking on? You may want to look at a S.Roque also. They were our two finalists, but for the features the S.Roque had the MHM beat by like 15% I believe it was. We got a ECO which is comparable to the S-type.I haven't even considered the S. Roque. I'll look into them. I think we were gonna get an Extreme
Which type of MHM are you thinking on? You may want to look at a S.Roque also. They were our two finalists, but for the features the S.Roque had the MHM beat by like 15% I believe it was. We got a ECO which is comparable to the S-type.
Ok, if that is all correct then I guess I was wrong. S.Roque may not be older, but that is not the whole point here. I never said or had a problem with the MHM, they are a awesome machine. I was very close to having a X-treme in our shop. All I was saying from the get go was it may be in his best interest to check out a very similar machine. When it came down to it for US the price savings enabled us to get a larger machine. That coupled with the availability of add-ons, a "heavy user" customer review, and overwhelming friendless and desire to help that we got directly from S.Roque in Portugal. Made the decision clear for us. Sorry I got my history wrong.
What's the price on these sroques
The only thing I don't like about the S.Roque is that you still clamp the screen in. I know that it is only one bar but that is enough. MHM screens only move when you move them. When you remove a screen it can be replaced in perfect registration as long as no one has moved the reg. knobs. MHM is the only machine that does this.
they actually have 5 different systems. 2 pin systems, theirs and one to use with MHM, Standard air clamps like everyone has, Newman pin system, latteral frame which I believe is the their Pin system just on the side of the screens instead of the end. One thing that is important about the SRoque to know is that you need to ask for what you want. They aren't very forthcoming in what they can do, but they can do just about anything you would want, but you have to ask. They will make special print programs for you (providing it can be done on an auto), cut special pallets etc. but ASK. I lost out on that boat because I nor anyone else knew. There is a lot I would've probably done differently had I known Everything that could have been done.~Ryan
Also, i don't like that in the past the M&R plattens come up to the screens, that always bugged me. but i believe on the newer presses they don't do that.