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Northland:
That's a really nice compressor... but get your press first and size the air-comp. to it.
A servo index is a great feature to have... if you go that route you can get by with a smaller compressor.

How much floor space do you have ?

Prosperi-Tees:

--- Quote from: Northland on July 05, 2011, 12:07:25 AM ---That's a really nice compressor... but get your press first and size the air-comp. to it.
A servo index is a great feature to have... if you go that route you can get by with a smaller compressor.

How much floor space do you have ?

--- End quote ---
The press will be a 6/8 Anatol Horizon all air. Specs say 21cfm but thats at full bore. I will never run it that fast and may never run it fully loaded.
My shop is 20 wide and 40 long.

3Deep:
@ Prosperi-Tees are you getting the 6/8 mini or full horizon?  I got the 7/8 mini and my space is tight but with the front load screen I,m like 21 to 23 inches from one wall and have plenty of room to work in, thats the beauty of having a press like the Mini Horizon.  I have a load and unload station which works fine with me as I,m the only one that rins the press...hey don't be surprised when you have to load that bad boy up.

Darryl

alan802:
I'd like to weigh in on the subject of hitting everything once.  I cannot stand walking out back now and seeing my guy double stroke something that we have always single stroked, but I understand John's thought on it as well.  I'll just keep it simple and say that you shouldn't be double stroking anything that you could single stroke if you had proper control over the other processes.  What I've been trying to teach my guys is why do more work or work harder if you don't have to?  Why print with 35psi on the printhead when 25psi will do?  You're making the press work harder than it should, and double stroking something that you could have looking just as good or better with one stroke is such a waste of time and ink, wear and tear on the press and no telling how many other issues arise when double stroking something.  We've double stroked things on rare occasions, but if we've made a mistake on a mesh count selection and have to double stroke something I'll sure as hell let the guys know we don't work like that and to not make the same mistake again.  I understand that sometimes you just have to double stroke something, you had to use a high mesh due to the artwork, seps aren't correct and you need more magenta for that process job to look right, or the ink you have to use is dictating things as well, but we do our best to keep from doing it

I have lot's of other thoughts on what Pierre said earlier about taking advantage of all of the different mesh counts available to you.  The trend these days is 230's and 305's, and we've joined in on that to a degree, but the old 110 still gets used here a lot.  Many of our designs are big white prints on dark shirts and I've spent years trying to make them look good with different mesh counts and I've spent many hours trying to make a pfp on a 230 look good, and it just doesn't work for me for most of our designs.  Double stroking a 230 is going to put down a very similar ink deposit (eom, artwork, tension, etc. can change that of course) than single stroking a 137, so we opt to stay low on many designs that need a high opacity look.  My main goal is to shear the ink on top of the shirt, and the higher you go on mesh count, the more you will struggle to get that perfect ink shear and end up putting more ink into the shirt and then you're fighting a battle you don't need to fight.

Sorry for the rant OP but that is just my take on a very small part of what you're going to be dealing with in the near future.  And as you can see, there are tons of different ways to get this job done, and many differing thoughts on the tools to use.

Clark:
If we double stroke, we didn't do something right.  Can't think of the last time we had to actually...most of the reason for double stroking is mesh selection....at least in my shop.

I have walked into a few manual shops watching them double stroke through a 230 mesh screen to get proper coverage, and after it is said and done, they could have saved time and ink by adding a little soft base to the color and lowered the mesh to 200.  The results would be a softer print and less effort.

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