Freight Class For A Used Auto

[californiadreamin]

In an old thread 224 said it is "125". That is if you believe that guy. I think he only works in the industry part-time out of his garage.

I concur with the old 244 thread. Class 125- printing machinery.

The higher the class the more money!
Insurance coverage pays out more as well.
On a used piece of equipment (used) Class 85 more than covers it.
The weight density per foot fits class 85
Machinery is machinery is machinery!
Why spend extra dollars with no value?

Because if something bad happens to it, there might be an issue if it's misclassified.


"Something bad happens":
Elaborate please! Does it just disappear?
Read Class 85, Then 125. What say you?
My freight broker said he sees no issues
If one wants to "over insure" no worries in that!
But when someone is buying a 20 year old piece of machinery, on a budget? Under Ten Grand?
To each his own.
winston

[3Deep]

Gerri, Freight Quote gave us a good price you might want to call them, they my even be in your neck of the woods.....

Darryl

[Baron265]

In an old thread 224 said it is "125". That is if you believe that guy. I think he only works in the industry part-time out of his garage.

I concur with the old 244 thread. Class 125- printing machinery.

The higher the class the more money!
Insurance coverage pays out more as well.
On a used piece of equipment (used) Class 85 more than covers it.
The weight density per foot fits class 85
Machinery is machinery is machinery!
Why spend extra dollars with no value?

Because if something bad happens to it, there might be an issue if it's misclassified.


"Something bad happens":
Elaborate please! Does it just disappear?
Read Class 85, Then 125. What say you?
My freight broker said he sees no issues
If one wants to "over insure" no worries in that!
But when someone is buying a 20 year old piece of machinery, on a budget? Under Ten Grand?
To each his own.
winston

So, by "something bads happens", I mean if some damage occurs during the shipment. Not necessarliy disappears, but lost. If it's lost, it could be handled 12 or more times by a forklift, breaking the crate and damaging the machine. They could stack something on top (even though you label the crate "Do Not Double Stack") and the crate could break and damage the machine. A fork could go through the open area in the crate and damage the machine. These are a few that have happened during my carreer.

If your freight broker will send you a Bill of Lading that says Class 85- Printing Machinery, you might be covered. If not, and the machine is damaged during shipment, you might have a problem getting the trucking company to pay for the damage. I also think the claim will be with the trucking company, not the broker. So watch out there.

The other side of it all, is that if they determine you misclassified a shipment, they'll bill you for the correct class with no discount. This could be a higher rate than you would get by shopping the correct class.

[JBLUE]

Always over insure on something that is going to make or break your business. For the couple of hundred bucks difference is it really worth the cost savings? The cost of the press is irreverent. If the press is damaged you are going to be down a while during the blame game of who is responsible. Might as well make it worth it and take away any loop hole that they can slip through.

Gerry,
The broker who is handling the deal should be taking care of this for you. That is what part of their cut is for. It is in their best interests to make sure the machine is crated and delivered in good condition if they are going to guarantee it to work as advertised upon arrival.

[Prosperi-Tees]

Dude does that thing have a new paint job? It looks brand freaking new congrats!

Nope not a new paint job. They didnt even touch it up. Im sure they cleaned it though, thanks!

[Prosperi-Tees]

Always over insure on something that is going to make or break your business. For the couple of hundred bucks difference is it really worth the cost savings? The cost of the press is irreverent. If the press is damaged you are going to be down a while during the blame game of who is responsible. Might as well make it worth it and take away any loop hole that they can slip through.

Gerry,
The broker who is handling the deal should be taking care of this for you. That is what part of their cut is for. It is in their best interests to make sure the machine is crated and delivered in good condition if they are going to guarantee it to work as advertised upon arrival.

Great point J, thanks

[ZooCity]

FWIW, I use 85 on used equipment and agree with Winston on this.  I think Mr.Hoffman's use of 135 makes sense for new equipment and considering the discount rate a large equip mfg must get. 

Old gauntlets and challengers are tough, you should be alright with anything short of a major catastrophe. 

Congrats! 

[ebscreen]

Remember when "he who took billions of useless pictures of installs" dropped a crate on it's side?

Man I woulda lost it. You could never trust that machine again.

[ZooCity]

dropped a crate on it's side

Yeah that qualifies as "major catastrophe".  The sneaky ass thing about freight damage is it can very hard to see until you get inside a machine sometimes.   Our screw compressor got wanged around on it's journey here and you couldn't tell at all until we opened 'er up for the warranty install and noticed the sheet metal cover had been torqued out of shape and messed with a part of the fan housing.  We got it squared up with the co thankfully but, technically, they could have backed out on the warranty (not their fault after all) and I would've been boned since I accepted the crate and signed off on the BOL.

If this press is being bought from a broker w. warranty and install you should be cool all around.  I don't know what the hell you'd have to do to damage the center bushings/shaft on one of these old presses (other than running w. poor setup/maintenance of course) but it would have to be extreme.  The rest is easily replaceable....except if it has the big ring around the arms, gotta carefully protect that.