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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2013, 06:10:06 PM »
That thing is friggin awesome! I take it the illuminated end caps on the print heads are print head controls, that would be super cool if they started having full control at all heads, even if just membrane buttons, but touch screens is pretty sick in an awesome way. My back would seize if I tried to load at that speed. If I'm running our DB at 40 DZ/H myself, I can hang for about 30 mins and then it's time for someone to jump in and help out. I can only imagine double that, then the way this thing is running, 6 times that, jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh, pretty impressive that a machine that big can run solid and accurate at that speed, an I'm sure that's really the point of the whole record. They are beasts for sure. Cool vid! 8)
these world record runs are not just for speed. The press is a test bench for many,many things that eventually end up being used on standard production presses. This also allows us to accelerate wear on items used on the press for long term durability. After the run the press is returned to M&R and disassembled for inspection of all critical components . Afterward we slow the maximum speed down to something like 1600 per hour and place the presses into a high volume shop for long term testing. Both of the previous presses are running flawlessly in two different shops as a daily production machine .our current record is 1909. The current press is running @ 2800 per hour. Our goal is to exceed 2,000. Tomorrow ir Omar's test run to see how he can handle the new speed. Wish us luck!
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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2013, 07:07:45 PM »
I've seen both record setting events and both M&R Print challenges.

Sorry I'm going to miss this one in London!

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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2013, 08:02:31 PM »
Thanks for the info Rich! I wasn't trying to say the record was worthless necessarily, I just didn't write enough words to ask how it could translate to a better press. How far are we from an autoloader?

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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2013, 08:11:12 PM »
They have one, it's called Omar. ;D
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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2013, 09:11:53 PM »
Thanks for the info Rich! I wasn't trying to say the record was worthless necessarily, I just didn't write enough words to ask how it could translate to a better press. How far are we from an autoloader?
we have an auto loader. It is called the Visa. It has been ready for 8 years. The industry is not ready for it yet. The apparel manufacturers need to make a change to their packaging and that is the only hang up.
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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2013, 12:02:54 AM »
Thanks for the info Rich! I wasn't trying to say the record was worthless necessarily, I just didn't write enough words to ask how it could translate to a better press. How far are we from an autoloader?
we have an auto loader. It is called the Visa. It has been ready for 8 years. The industry is not ready for it yet. The apparel manufacturers need to make a change to their packaging and that is the only hang up.

Do you have a link to said autoloader?

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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2013, 08:24:55 AM »
You can see it on M&R's site, mrprint.com and look for the Passport.
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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2013, 11:44:41 AM »
The Passport is the auto unloader, not the loader.    ;)
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2013, 11:47:00 AM »
Correct. I misread. Sorry
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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2013, 12:14:31 PM »
Thanks for the info Rich! I wasn't trying to say the record was worthless necessarily, I just didn't write enough words to ask how it could translate to a better press. How far are we from an autoloader?
we have an auto loader. It is called the Visa. It has been ready for 8 years. The industry is not ready for it yet. The apparel manufacturers need to make a change to their packaging and that is the only hang up.

Couldn't a shop stack shirts correctly for the loader? 
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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2013, 10:20:19 PM »
Couldn't a shop stack shirts correctly for the loader?

Yes, but it takes about as long as loading them.

M&R Visa auto loader:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jH9pMJoGfo
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2013, 11:12:39 PM »
Ok that's pretty darn neat, but will it ever get in a real production shop?  how much setup does it take, will I only need two people on the press now, great idea put still a bunch of questions to be ask, and is it worth the $$, how much are you going to save, I know Rich has been working on those questions to give answers to.  I know if I had a very large production shop I would have a ton of questions, but my biggest one would be, and this is just not for this automation machine, but a few others....if machines are doing 50% of all the work who has money to buy the product, I know this question has been tossed around for years, but still a great idea Rich.

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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2013, 02:53:14 AM »
Thanks for the info Rich! I wasn't trying to say the record was worthless necessarily, I just didn't write enough words to ask how it could translate to a better press. How far are we from an autoloader?
we have an auto loader. It is called the Visa. It has been ready for 8 years. The industry is not ready for it yet. The apparel manufacturers need to make a change to their packaging and that is the only hang up.

Couldn't a shop stack shirts correctly for the loader?

Yes but by stacked right, Rich means stacked with the sleeves, neck seams and back side of the shirts removed. Well and a special bracket attached so the machine can pick them up.

I would love to see this thing. Unloaded not a big deal but to be able to grab a shirt off a pile??? I have a hard time some times.

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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2013, 09:35:12 AM »
Thanks for the info Rich! I wasn't trying to say the record was worthless necessarily, I just didn't write enough words to ask how it could translate to a better press. How far are we from an autoloader?
we have an auto loader. It is called the Visa. It has been ready for 8 years. The industry is not ready for it yet. The apparel manufacturers need to make a change to their packaging and that is the only hang up.
Watch the video. The machine is basically a pick and place robot with a few little items to open the shirt and place it flat on a glued surface. Placement of the stacking is the only issue. Garbage in , garbage out comes to mind if initally placed improperly. In order for this to work the shirt stack coming out of the box would have to be pretty damn close to perfect. And there you have the problem. Getting the apparel manufacturers to change the way they pack shirts would take an act of God. Too many miles of conveyors in the world to handle the shirt box as it is!

Couldn't a shop stack shirts correctly for the loader?

Yes but by stacked right, Rich means stacked with the sleeves, neck seams and back side of the shirts removed. Well and a special bracket attached so the machine can pick them up.

I would love to see this thing. Unloaded not a big deal but to be able to grab a shirt off a pile??? I have a hard time some times.
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Re: Now that is fast...
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2013, 08:13:31 PM »
Good LORD that Challenger is blazing fast.


So the main issue with the Visa is it would take at least as much time to re-stack the shirts coming out of the box as it would to just have a human load the machine in the first place, correct?

However, if you have enough cheaper, less-skilled labor on hand than you do skilled press operators, this would (could?) be really handy in very high volume situations. Maybe.

Wouldn't work in our shop, we have too much screwy garment placement going on. Sleeves, sides, hips, over pockets, etc. Thin, stretchy shirts too. That thing would eat them for breakfast.
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