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Offline inkbrigade

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Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« on: April 30, 2013, 04:01:14 AM »
So we moved into a bigger shop and have a bigger area for reclaim. We use to use this booth.
http://www.westarsolutions.com/vend/blackline/kd.html

But it's a bit small for our 23X33 m3 frames. It's going to be relegated to development / clean water washout now.

So we bought this booth
http://www.ccidom.com/products.php?product=E44SL-WASHOUT-BOOTH-WITH-BACKLIGHTING

But had some bad luck with it. The one we got wouldn't fully drain, the main pan wasn't bent down enough to get all the water out. Also it seemed a bit to tall (the sink portion) and not deep enough.

My concern is comfort for the person reclaiming racks and racks of screens per day. If they could hold the pressure washer wand more towards their waist it would put less stress on their arms and shoulders.

The bigger problem with the CCI booth was the depth. It's listed as 24 inches deep, but since it's stainless, it has a lip on it making it actually like 22.5 deep. This means you need to lift the frame out of the sink to rotate it 180 degrees to wash the other side of the screen.

Again this is wear and tear on the employee and also manages to get water all over the floor that could be avoided.

So my question for all of you with bigger shops. What washout booth are you using?

We're looking at Rino Tech. Pretty spendy, but I'm assuming we're only gonna need to buy this once.
http://www.rhinotechinc.com/screen-printing-equipment/washout-booths/washout%20booth%2030

Thoughts?

Thanks!
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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 08:22:27 AM »
we have a stainless cci booth for developing - http://www.ccidom.com/products.php?product=STAINLESS-HD%252dSERIES-WASHOUT

awesome booth overall, but has leaked a few times (welds not as strong as they could be)


we have two autotype booths also

http://www.cps-chemicals.com/autotype.nsf/webfamiliescps/Combi%20cleaner#1800SW_Combeasy. 

one is strictly reclaim, the other is strictly degreasing.  they are well built, but way too shallow for reclaim.  extremely heavy, welds are solid.

i want a booth that is solid like the autotype, but sized deeper and wider like the CCI. 


when i started here (1996) we had polypropylene booths - you could stack 20 (if you wanted)  23x31 mzx in one of the booths.  sadly they broke beyond repair - possibly from having 20 frames in them :)


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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 08:35:16 AM »
I remember hauling those Autotype booths up that freight elevator Duane! McDermot gave us a sweet deal on those. But you're right on how they missed out on the dimensions. Best built sinks I believe you'll ever find. I think they were made in Denmark.

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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 08:54:29 AM »
I'm not a big auto shop - but I made mine. Nothing on the market fit my needs so I made a 12' sink with a 4' x 12' back light. It's around 30" deep, and the base is about 40" off the floor so the images are in your face. made it out of wood, then covered that mother in sprayable truck bed liner, autozone has it. 100.00/gallon. Works awesome. just an option.
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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 09:03:37 AM »
I remember hauling those Autotype booths up that freight elevator Duane! McDermot gave us a sweet deal on those. But you're right on how they missed out on the dimensions. Best built sinks I believe you'll ever find. I think they were made in Denmark.

crated weight was about 1000 lbs each.

we got a great deal and they will last forever, but forever is too long when they arent sized correctly.

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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 10:29:45 AM »
I got a nice washout in the back of my shop, great during the summer, but hell during winter

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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 10:59:31 AM »
If you're handy modifying stuff, or get lucky, one of the better ideas I've heard is to check out the used restaurant equipment suppliers--a lot of cheap decent quality stainless in those places.

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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 03:05:09 PM »
We have the same CCI booth, it's our "clean" booth for degreasing and resolving.  Dirty booth is a modified 36x36 shower stall. 

I agree, it's nice to be able to flip the screen around with one hand and the shower stall we have is perfect for that.  The Rhino actually looks really nice and I don't think that's too crazy expensive for a booth like that.  In an ideal world I would replace our shower stall with something like one of those 70" wide rhinos so we could de ink two screens at a time.

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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 04:09:59 PM »
Blackline.  Ask Kelly to give you a quote.  We have the Big 8 foot wide one.  Love it.  You can always swing by and check ours out.
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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 04:21:42 PM »
we have the same CCI booth and yes, the left side doesnt fully drain either. I had never really had a problem with turning the screen because I usually just reach the hose around to the other side and my hand to the other side (pull back and step to the side)....im small so i can do that...normal sized people seem to not be able to and it leads to banging around...other than that, no leaks, and its been great...wish it came with 2 of those screen holder inserts and i still havent peeled the plastic off the back so its a little gunky looking but the light still shines bright....  we only reclaim about 50-100 screens a week though (once a week)
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Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 04:34:32 PM »
Thanks Shelly. I guess for the money, we expected less trouble with it.
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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 08:16:56 PM »
Custom built at a local metal shop. Not any cheaper but exactly what we wanted.
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Re: Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2013, 08:20:56 PM »
here are my opinion on Washout Booths.

Best Built: Easiway W-60, 48 x60 x36
it is a poly booth the thickest 1/2 inch, and sturdiest ever seen , deep, drains very well , great Backlights can hold 2 auto screens
its Top end , and priced as one, but the people that have them , do not regret it.
one of the best built in the industry

The Rhino series , economy and heavy duty, poly ( some sizes have metal stands)
Good booths  , not as thick as the Easiway, back light  drains good.
 priced not bad

washout booths are an item you get what you pay for

I am not a huge fan of metal wash out booths , they work though, all booths work though, lets face it its not rocket science
but with metal , they are loud when because of pressure washers (like cleaning metal trash cans as a kid with the spray hose) and the  sodium periodate  in re-claimers brake down the metal over time , even galvanized , all it takes is one scratch and a rust spot starts to wear it out
Just my opinion , I sell them all but this is my opinion =)

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Big auto shops. What are you using for washout booths
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2013, 12:57:20 AM »
Thanks guys. We're getting a quote on the rhino tech one tomorrow!
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