inside outside print?

[ericheartsu]

I'm hoping the guru's on this board can tell me what to do!

i have a client that wants an order of thanks for a 3 color print on the front of the tank, and a 3 color print on the inside of the tank, so that they can flip the tank upwards to cover the person's face!

If i do it with Discharge i'm afraid that the image will show through on the other side. how can i make this happen?

it'd be a black tank, with a base/white/neon green

[mk162]

geez, I would almost be tempted to print a clear base, flash, white, flash colors.  It would really let your top colors pop and the clear would block the ink from showing through.

Go all 230's and the hand won't be bad.

[ericheartsu]

geez, I would almost be tempted to print a clear base, flash, white, flash colors.  It would really let your top colors pop and the clear would block the ink from showing through.

Go all 230's and the hand won't be bad.

this was my thought exactly. but i wasn't sure how soft it would be

[ericheartsu]

what about a clear base with waterbase ink?

[mk162]

Hmm, that might work as well, or print the inside and then touch up any that you can see through with black spray paint...perfect.

The hand should be ok, it won't be awesome, what kind of shirt is it?

[ericheartsu]

im gonna try testing it two ways tomorrow:

1. clear blocking base with waterbased ink
2. clear blocking base with plastisol

[ericheartsu]

working on this today, in case anyone is interested.

Right now we are testing it. We have the screens set up like this:

Mesh Count: Ink
230: Wilflex softhand base clear
272: Union Mixopaque Neon Green
272: Rutland Streetfighter white

this works great, but the neon green is not vibrant at all. The white looks great though.

next up we tried mixing white into the clear base, but it didn't really change the vibrancy of the green at all.

[ebscreen]

Clear
Flash
White
Flash
Neon
Top white


Flo's need an optically bright and smooth UB.

[ericheartsu]

Clear
Flash
White
Flash
Neon
Top white


Flo's need an optically bright and smooth UB.

adding the extra screen is the next step. I really think what we are going to do first is remake the white so that it acts as base and a highlight. so it would be:

Clear
flash
white
flash
neon green printed over the white

[TCT]

We have printed something just like you are talking about. Printing clear then the other colors is what we did. We needed a Flo orange on ours, and needed white under that to make it look right. All in all it worked- but it was not what I would call a soft hand... I did feel like smacking the customer with a "heavy" hand by the time the order was done

[ericheartsu]

ok, we are in production on these.

Clear base, 230mesh
flash
wilflex white, 273 mesh
flash
Union mixopaque neon green, 272

hand is great, not showing through on the other side of the shirt, but white is slightly less bright than i'd like it to be, but otherwise pretty good. now to print the insides and not damage the print!

[Spreading Ink]

We have done this a couple of times in the past always did discharge.  180 -200 mesh screens and monitored our pressure - no issues. 

First time we did this it was 400-500 shirts, second time it was a couple of smaller orders - 120 - 130 or so.

Worked out fine.

Dave