Anatol Help?

[3Deep]

Yesterday I was setting up a print on a 230 mesh full of halftones, did all adjustments squeegee angle, stroke pressure etc make the sample print very nice, set all the other color sample again nice.  Now halfway thru the run I start getting a bad print on the halftone screen, and what I found out is my squeegee angle had changed seems like the squeegee holder is slipping and it was tight, so I reset my angle and it did it again.  Anybody have trouble with that part slipping and how did you fix it...I did back off the pressure and that seemed to help...here is a bad pic.

Darryl

[tonypep]

You can try Anatol bwahahahaha

[Binkspot]

Could be the threads in the kip handle are bottoming out, bolt too long. I would try adding a flat washer which would give more room for the bolt to tighten before it bottoms out. Or at least measuring it and make sure that is not happening.

[Orion]

What bink said, but maybe the addition of some type of lock washer.

[blue moon]

You can try Anatol bwahahahaha

there is some indication that Anatol is turning the corner. Hopefully the issues are behind them now.

pierre

[3Deep]

Anatol call and said the same thing as you all,add a lock washer, the press is 5 years old now so I expect some wear and tear.  You know I'm kinda thinking this could have been going on for some time now and I just really never had time to stop and check it out....I would just crank it down more and keep printing, but hey thanks.

Darryl

[TCT]

We have had problems with this on like 3 of our heads on our anatol. It actually got so bad on our front and rear adjustments for a while we had to use a vice-grips to adjust the stroke. Good old anatol support was going to get back to me with what to do.... They must be busy, because I have been waiting for that call for 2 years now! I may give up on them soon. 

I actually ended up machining new parts for ours. I know that doesn't help you. My advice would be to get a new part, but that may take a year to get if you buy it directly through anatol. I had some luck with OTS out in CA for parts.

[alan802]

I'd call OTS if I had an Anatol. 

[Frog]

Anatol call and said the same thing as you all,add a lock washer, the press is 5 years old now so I expect some wear and tear.  You know I'm kinda thinking this could have been going on for some time now and I just really never had time to stop and check it out....I would just crank it down more and keep printing, but hey thanks.

Darryl

Anatol called. That's a good thing. It means that they care, and they are reading the forum. 

[alan802]

So basically the squeegee angle kip lever doesn't hold the angle where you want it right?  I've seen that happen on press when excessive pressure is applied or when the pressure is too high and you have an ink that is overpowering the blade.  A kip lever can strip out but if it's not stripped then how does it become less effective at it's job over time is what I'm asking?  It's like saying a nut and bolt that isn't stripped was working as it was designed then over a period of time it stopped.  I think it's either defective from the beginning, as in a design flaw or your pressure and other variables simply overpowered the mechanics of the chopper assembly.  Just my 2 pennies.

[3Deep]

Could be the threads in the kip handle are bottoming out, bolt too long. I would try adding a flat washer which would give more room for the bolt to tighten before it bottoms out. Or at least measuring it and make sure that is not happening.

Well before I left the shop today I measured the bolt and tighten knob and it has plenty of thread room to crank down on(no bottoming out), so adding a lock washer might not do anything unless the knob might be loosen somehow during production , but it feels tight.  Seem like to me they would have make some kind of teeth there instead of having two smooth surfaces' to tighten up on each other.  If the lock washer does not work I might try roughing  up both surface's with a file or something.

Darryl

[3Deep]

So basically the squeegee angle kip lever doesn't hold the angle where you want it right?  I've seen that happen on press when excessive pressure is applied or when the pressure is too high and you have an ink that is overpowering the blade.  A kip lever can strip out but if it's not stripped then how does it become less effective at it's job over time is what I'm asking?  It's like saying a nut and bolt that isn't stripped was working as it was designed then over a period of time it stopped.  I think it's either defective from the beginning, as in a design flaw or your pressure and other variables simply overpowered the mechanics of the chopper assembly.  Just my 2 pennies.

well Alan I've thought about part of what you said, to much chopper pressure, and no the kip lever is not stripped nor the bolt...I don't think it's the ink, alls I know is I had it at 15 degree angle and halfway thru the run it was at 20 thats a 5 degree jump using 70/90/70 squeegee blades.  Now you might be on to something there about the choppers cuz I have to put more pressure on one chopper than the other on that head to get it to print even.  I might take the choppers off the flash head being I never use that head for printing much and they are like new, hey thanks Alan.

Darryl

[TCT]

Let us know if the lock washer worked, it will be good to know for future!
Plus, I'm kinda jealous anatol called you back.... I just knew it they must think I'm fat or ugly, I never get a second date

[TCT]

So basically the squeegee angle kip lever doesn't hold the angle where you want it right?  I've seen that happen on press when excessive pressure is applied or when the pressure is too high and you have an ink that is overpowering the blade.  A kip lever can strip out but if it's not stripped then how does it become less effective at it's job over time is what I'm asking?  It's like saying a nut and bolt that isn't stripped was working as it was designed then over a period of time it stopped.  I think it's either defective from the beginning, as in a design flaw or your pressure and other variables simply overpowered the mechanics of the chopper assembly.  Just my 2 pennies.

well Alan I've thought about part of what you said, to much chopper pressure, and no the kip lever is not stripped nor the bolt...I don't think it's the ink, alls I know is I had it at 15 degree angle and halfway thru the run it was at 20 thats a 5 degree jump using 70/90/70 squeegee blades.  Now you might be on to something there about the choppers cuz I have to put more pressure on one chopper than the other on that head to get it to print even.  I might take the choppers off the flash head being I never use that head for printing much and they are like new, hey thanks Alan.

Darryl

What do you have your choppers set at? We usually keep ours around 11-15ish...

[3Deep]

Hmmm that's kinda high for us I'm normally just below that and I angle my squeegees at around 10 to 15 angle 70/90/70 duro, now if I'm running just the single 70 duro I might go to 10 or just a little higher.