How can I tri-loc two images on the same screen (ends)

[shellyky]

My brain is mush right now or I'd try to be more innovative on my own, but how can I triloc two images on opposite sides of a 23x31?  I have a design which should be 15" but they ordered size S american apparel ladies and i can only fit an 11" on that...its going to look hideous at 11" on the mens t's (its only like 2" tall so it looks really small)...it would be great if i could just triloc a 15" version on the same two screens (2 color job)


Any tips are appreciated...thanks!

[Gilligan]

I'm guessing you are using carrier sheets.

[jasonl]

put your first art on carrier and load onto exposure unit, use 2 or 3 pieces of tape and place sticky side up on bottom and sides of your artwork.  Load screen next and press down where you have tape to stick film to screen.  Take screen out of unit and take carrier off of art, leaving the art stuck to your screen.  Flip screen around load new art on pin bar and burn both at the same time.  SHould line up great on press.  I do it like this EVERYDAY.

[screenprintguy]

We did it just like Jason explained, worked pretty good too. I'd lightly tape the first carrier sheet with the art so that once, we'd flip, I could gently pull that first carrier sheet off without moving the artwork, other wise it would get pinched in the jig and bend the first carrier sheet making it useless.

[Baron265]

Could you completely block off half the screen and process the other half, then block off the processed half and shoot the half you blocked first?

[Lizard]

No offense to M&R cause I love my tri-loc but get rid of the carrier sheet thing and make you a light box with grid where the screens fit on it up side down.  Line up your films, turn the screen around and line up the other side.  No jig on the glass.

[Baron265]

No offense to M&R cause I love my tri-loc but get rid of the carrier sheet thing and make you a light box with grid where the screens fit on it up side down.  Line up your films, turn the screen around and line up the other side.  No jig on the glass.

I-Image- No jig on the glass/ No glass

[alan802]

We modified ours to work without carrier sheets and you can also gang images like Shelly is trying to do.  Unfortunately the method I'm using has been used by a certain someone in the industry and championed as his own system although it's been around for years.  Big John52 was one of the first that I know of to modify the triloc but I'm not sure if he uses double sided tape or uses the FPU like we do where it resembles the MHM style FPU.  I'd love to see M&R fabricate something like I've done but at this point someone we won't mention would cry foul and say someone was copying him.  Our system is basically half M&R Triloc and half MHM FPU, works as good as a pre-reg system can work without going CTS.

[ZooCity]

We use pin lock but, same concept here.  I gang images all the time by using a single piece of film

 Build a template in illy so you know where each image will hit, place em, print one film and go.

It wastes some film but saves some time.

[shellyky]

fantastic...thanks!

EDIT: got it burned, just took a minute or so extra, this will come in handy for some things for sure...thanks again.

[jsheridan]

Due to the slight tolernace difference of some frames OD dimensions.. the triloc system was only designed to use one side of the frame. Put an image on both sides and you'll find the triloc don't work so well on press.

Yeah you can make workarounds but the end answer for best efficiency, one image per screen.

[Lizard]

Due to the slight tolernace difference of some frames OD dimensions.. the triloc system was only designed to use one side of the frame. Put an image on both sides and you'll find the triloc don't work so well on press.

Yeah you can make workarounds but the end answer for best efficiency, one image per screen.

I would have to disagree.  When you say this I assume you are thinking of one film with both images on it.  We register one film, turn the frame around and register the other film.  Do this all day long.

[jsheridan]

Due to the slight tolerance difference of some frames OD dimensions.. the triloc system was only designed to use one side of the frame. Put an image on both sides and you'll find the triloc don't work so well on press.

Yeah you can make workarounds but the end answer for best efficiency, one image per screen.

I would have to disagree.  When you say this I assume you are thinking of one film with both images on it.  We register one film, turn the frame around and register the other film.  Do this all day long.

No, separate films.

You made a workaround that doesn't use the entire system as intended and therefore only applies to you.

My statement still holds true for those who use the system as designed.