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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2013, 01:02:48 PM »
The major drawback on using these for textile as opposed to a carousel is that you can't load while
the printing is taking place. Two operators doesn't really increase the speed much as Dan said.
That said, one person and 300 pcs/hour is pretty realistic.



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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2013, 09:27:25 PM »
The major drawback on using these for textile as opposed to a carousel is that you can't load while
the printing is taking place. Two operators doesn't really increase the speed much as Dan said.
That said, one person and 300 pcs/hour is pretty realistic.

Sounds about right.  I run flatstock on our cameo at about 350/hr. without too much trouble.  You would want to place the flatstock/shirt printer strategically to make the offloading as fast as possible.  It may/may not be actually faster than doing a single operator doing one hitters on a manual press but it will certainly be more consistent and less fatiguing.

I think the "official" retrofit kit from GPI for a cameo is priced at $650 but I doubt it is much better than Sbrem's description of a jerry rigged platform and an american style platen and mount.  Probably a little more convenient if you want to switch back and forth from flatstock to shirts....I've been pondering it.  Our Cameo currently resides right next to the dryer and is used for actual flatstock about once a month to do transfers for caps and tags and the odd record sleeve or gig poster run.  Might pull the vac bed and make myself a nice parallel lift manual printing setup out of the bed and let the cameo whip out one hit prints on Ts.

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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2013, 09:39:40 PM »
Im trying to wrap my head around why this could or could not be used to print 1 color all over prints. It seems to me that it would work without any issues but what am I missing as I have never seen one of these close up.

Back to the OP. How do folks deal with the "overprint" mess inherent with all-over printing on a re-purposed press like this? I can't see the table going through a bath like a belt on a true all-over belt printer.
Wiping it clean after each shirt's gotta slow down the run a bit.
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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2013, 12:35:13 AM »
Thanks for all the info guys. Mucho appreciated. And Frog, I do know that people who run those large, large print areas of the Challenger III's and the Anatol version lay down a sheet of cheap paper, like cheap, cheap paper that is precut before they put the shirt on the platen. Then shirt and paper goes through dryer. Well, that is just probably one way to do it but the shop that I know that does it that was it every day, all day long. With two of those presses just for that reason so they are doing something right! I am sure they buy that paper in massive rolls and just have someone standing there all day cutting. Talk about boring!

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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2013, 01:24:13 PM »
I've seen shirts tac'ed (as opposed to tacked) to cardboard, and then just using the vacuum holdown of the press
to, well, hold it down. Whole mess goes through the dryer, typically waterbased inks so not much to deal with on
the next garment.

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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2013, 04:07:43 PM »
We have used butcher paper in the past and that works well. As it goes through the dryer it cures onto the paper. It is cheap and last a long time.
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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2013, 07:49:31 PM »
We used the Cameo with t-shirt attachment that AWT sells as an option.
Nice, but a little clunky, saving a lot of labor on larger orders for one color prints.
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Re: Could this or could it not?
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2013, 09:08:16 AM »
People have also coverted old multi-printer heads to do the same thing..
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