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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2012, 11:59:13 AM »
Lead in inks.

Did anyone notice how much of that film covered the screen, their images are so close to the edge of the frames. I bet back then it was possible because the tension was so loose you could easily print right up to the frame.

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2013, 12:04:26 AM »
I was 7 in 82 (man Im old...) here I was thinking the the push stoke was something semi new... I had an Oval for month, a total POS nightmare.

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2013, 11:58:38 AM »
I was 7 in 82 (man Im old...) here I was thinking the the push stoke was something semi new... I had an Oval for month, a total POS nightmare.

You're not old, I was 30 in '82. Everything he did, I did with my compadres then (except for the volume). I was in my 10th year of screenprinting, 7th in tees. Our artist, who works with us now, even had the Dorothy Hamill hairdo. It was fun.

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2013, 03:18:39 PM »
you guys, i wasn't even born in 82.
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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2013, 12:27:33 PM »
That video is awesome. I owe a ton of my early business to shops with those old ovals. Clients would go to those guys wanting 4c Process & the answer was "you can't do that on T-shirts," because you really couldn't on those machines. That was news to me -- I did it manually for over 10 years. I'm pretty sure the first auto in Austin was one of those, at Austin Screen Graphics n middle Fiskville rd. Then in the late 80's, Marty at Bee Bop bought an American Arrow Multi-Printer. I'm sure Bill Hood remembers Marty. ASG & Bee Bop both shut down in the mid-90's. No idea what happened to that press. Marty's Arrows are still around here & there.

And yeah, amberlith! There was nothing so cringe-inducing as having a piece of amber come off on the back of a screen after some poor soul had spent 6 hours cutting seps with a razor knife. I still have a few old amber seps in my art collection, including a few cut by Frank Kozik.
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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 02:17:02 PM »


And yeah, amberlith! There was nothing so cringe-inducing as having a piece of amber come off on the back of a screen after some poor soul had spent 6 hours cutting seps with a razor knife. I still have a few old amber seps in my art collection, including a few cut by Frank Kozik.
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Eventually, we learned to contact the ruby/amberlith/ziptone to real film so that issue wouldn't come up anymore. It really sucked when that happened.

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 02:20:39 PM »
May have been posted here before, and not 80's but close enough:

Winterland Productions Promo Video

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2013, 02:40:39 PM »
Thanks for posting that!

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2013, 03:38:45 PM »
I was involved with Winterland on a couple of levels. First as Technical Director for OATS we were their East Coast contract printer. Second was a merger after Bill Graham died. It was a hell of a place and like no other

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 04:03:48 PM »
I get the feeling some of those presses were on upper floors of their building.
Butt puckering to say the least.

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 06:29:21 PM »
Ha, Winterland was always a thorn in my side. We'd bring along local bands, work our butts off to get them shirts on the road, & then they'd get signed to a major label deal & Winterland would scoop up the merch account. They show a Dangerous Toys shirt early in that vid - they were a local client before they got signed.

They really had the touring merch thing sewn up for a few years there. Surprised to see a bunch of ovals & multiprinters in that video, too - they did good work on those things most of the time.
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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2013, 06:46:08 PM »
I toured a large shop in Staten Island NY that was in an old sewing factory. The building was H_U_G_E.  I think 5-6 floors high and just super long...and old.  They are probably still printing out of it. I forget the name of the Co. but they had the precision ovals running full speed and was up on the 4th and fifth floors. Big fold out windows with those super large fans blowing in fresh air.


They printed for JC penny's, Macy's etc. back then. Probably 10-12 years go. Very similar to the building at te front of this video but not the same Co.
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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2013, 06:46:03 AM »
I remember the stories from the Precision techs about how they had to seal off the block right in the middle of SF and had to use cranes to get the ovals up to the fifth floor. Sadly one of their operators died when his head got crushed due to a bypassed safety. When I was there they had installed cages around each one with a dead mans swich that cut the power if you needed to work on the print side.
Winterland was one of the pioneers in sim process work. The video is testimony as you can see what they were doing at that time. They, along with Harlequin, Andy A, OATS, and later, New Buffalo were way ahead of the curve and many of us had to sign non-competes. A couple of their sales staff went on to form JSR Merchandising.

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Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2013, 06:10:05 PM »
Awesome. I don't know enough about how to do things right now. Ha.

Our shop was started in 82. I was also born in 82.
I'm the third owner. Same location. Still rented from the same landlady.
Our camera is still sitting in the back room.
Most of the art/films were culled through the years. Very sad.

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A Note From Kai - Re: neat video of printing in early 80s
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2015, 12:35:57 PM »
Great Vid!!

dDid my first shirt in 1976..... as a kid.....

still love it....

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