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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2013, 06:43:53 PM »
Sweet, thanks for the update.

So I guess the only real issue is finding the right emulsion or getting the inks right.  I can see how that might take some time considering all the different emulsions out there but I wouldn't have thought there would be that much difference between emulsions that the CTS inks wouldn't adhere to them.  Oh well, not a deal breaker and I'm sure in a few months to a year they will be fine tuned and work perfectly with your favorite emulsion.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2013, 07:26:22 PM »
Sweet, thanks for the update.

So I guess the only real issue is finding the right emulsion or getting the inks right.  I can see how that might take some time considering all the different emulsions out there but I wouldn't have thought there would be that much difference between emulsions that the CTS inks wouldn't adhere to them.  Oh well, not a deal breaker and I'm sure in a few months to a year they will be fine tuned and work perfectly with your favorite emulsion.
Alan the problem was the wrong ink was installed here at the factory. I -image and I-image ST take two completely different inks. The ink that goes through the I-image does not care what type of emulsion it jets to. Just a FYI.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2013, 08:42:04 PM »
Right, sorry Alan if I didn't clarrify. No need to use limited emulsions,  I simply had ST ink in my tank by mistake. Now that we have the proper cts ink in the unit I can print on anything. The ST model and standard I-image have different print heads needing different ink formulations. It's really awesome.  Nothing like seping a new 8 co front 8 co back job, printing the seps cts exposing in seconds, super fasr wash out. Less taping to do and then lock and load on press with very little micro, if at all. Soooooooo much more efficient than what we were ding with film and carrier sheets and so much more detail.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2013, 09:00:25 PM »
Did you have ANY idea how great it would be? I try to tell people but it usually falls on deaf ears. Seeing is believing
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2013, 06:39:09 AM »
It's all about ROI guys, forget quality of life! 

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2013, 08:03:46 AM »
It's all about ROI guys, forget quality of life! 

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Yeah!!!  F it man, who needs investments.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2013, 08:43:48 AM »
It's all about ROI guys, forget quality of life! 

 ;D

Yeah!!!  F it man, who needs investments.

Do you think quality of life/work should be factored into a choice like a CTS?  Or for you is it all about the numbers? 
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2013, 08:47:30 AM »
My quality of work, quality of efficiency,  and quality of life aka-----making things at the shop easier------, is where we are getting instant roi. The other numbers and figures are peripheral.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2013, 08:49:06 AM »
Been trying to get the boss to get me a lazy boy for years yet he never does!......... F!@# it  I quit!
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2013, 08:53:10 AM »
ink, go to sam's club, they have a good one there for about $300 I think.  Expense it out.

I agree with the quality of life.  That is why I want a nice office, I spend my day here, it should look good for me too.

That is why I grabbed the exposure unit I got, and the 4800.  Te 40-1k and the epson 3000 were working fine, but I wanted something that was faster, and easier, and I had to babysit less.

Quality of life would probably be taken more into the labor saving end of ROI.

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2013, 09:00:35 AM »
ink, go to sam's club, they have a good one there for about $300 I think.  Expense it out.

I agree with the quality of life.  That is why I want a nice office, I spend my day here, it should look good for me too.

That is why I grabbed the exposure unit I got, and the 4800.  Te 40-1k and the epson 3000 were working fine, but I wanted something that was faster, and easier, and I had to babysit less.

Quality of life would probably be taken more into the labor saving end of ROI.

You know I am kidding of course. I have a great office chair keeps the back from screaming to much but a lazy boy would be a bit over kill lol.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2013, 09:02:17 AM »
We need some new chairs around this place, but most of them are ugly as hell, and if they look good, you don't want to sit in them.  I was also kidding of course.(I did get one of those chairs though for my son's room, so much better than a rocker).

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2013, 09:19:08 AM »
Been trying to get the boss to get me a lazy boy for years yet he never does!......... F!@# it  I quit!

I thought you were the boss?   j/k, seriously ;)

My quality of work, quality of efficiency,  and quality of life aka-----making things at the shop easier------, is where we are getting instant roi. The other numbers and figures are peripheral.

Pretty much my attitude on it.   

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2013, 09:27:02 AM »
come on guys..you know you cannot make money with one of those...and why would  you want one?  it doesn't make you go any faster? 

ahahhahahah

I think Mike gets it and sees where are the savings are over film....enjoy and make more money in 2013 than 2012...get get em

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2013, 09:33:21 AM »
Yeah it is a hefty financial investment compared to a $500-$2,000 inkjet printer, but like any investment, you reap the huge benefits in time. Thankfully this particular investment is giving us instant reaping with ease of work. You really can't see it until you are personally using it. If you know someone with a CTS and can spend some time with them you would see it. I have to admit, conceptually I was hooked, but still skeptical until it's actually here in use. Nobody likes to lay out a chunk of change, but knowing I have M&R behind the machine, and how the machine was built, I know it will be here in use for the long haul. Nooooooo moooooooooreeeee films, no more carrier sheets. Less time taping up screens, no more pin hole possibilities, no more, oh wait did the vacum lid shift something in the exposure unit, no more waiting for the lid to draw down, I can expose 2-3 screens faster just in the time saved in no draw down, bottom line, I can't keep up with it, THAT'S A GOOD THING =). Not trying to show off at all guys, please don't take it that way. I'm just trying to explain that this type of investment is more than the basic ROI calcs you would do on anything else. Kinda like when we bought our Diamond back. A buddy of mine printing for over 20 years tried to talk me out of it. Oh you are too young in the bizz for something like that, just get another manual and another guy and you'll get the work done. QUALITY OF LIFE came into that factor, we knew we would have to sacrifice for the tool, but you know what, that took enabled us to grow and here is is paid off and it's an M&R so we know it will be around for a long long time to come and make us money and keep us going. The CTS is all that it's cracked up to be, and having such and in depth personal experience with the service of M&R now with it, I would highly recommend the I-Image or I-Image ST over any other brand. There is a learning curve that comes into starting off with one, so having a team behind you that will be there all the way pays off dividends big time!!!
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