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New Xenon White
« on: November 28, 2012, 03:39:25 PM »
This White will go on anything from 100% Nylon to 100% Cotton and anything in between.  No catalyst needed.  This is a pic of a customers most bleeding garment with the new White on it.
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2012, 05:56:52 PM »
Is it creamy?

How are the flash times?

Is it good on the auto?

How much does it cost?
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 09:38:02 PM »
Is it creamy?

How are the flash times?

Is it good on the auto?

How much does it cost?
This is a very low temp cure ink.  The flash times are dependent on too many factors for me to answer.  If used as designed then I would say the flash times would be quick.  $72 per gallon.  $340 per 5 gallon.  Yes it is creamy.  All Xenon products come with a 30 day unconditional guarantee.
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 10:35:14 PM »
When I start to run low on my current inventory I might give a gallon a try.  At that price though it will have to be pretty special.  I'm happy with our current white but I will always try new products.
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2012, 12:22:09 AM »
Is it creamy?

How are the flash times?

Is it good on the auto?

How much does it cost?
This is a very low temp cure ink.  The flash times are dependent on too many factors for me to answer.  If used as designed then I would say the flash times would be quick.  $72 per gallon.  $340 per 5 gallon.  Yes it is creamy.  All Xenon products come with a 30 day unconditional guarantee.

Thumbs up for answering the question vs "call me". ;)

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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 12:30:38 AM »
Lol Kevin beat me to it!!! Lets see if we can keep this going.
Is this a silicone ink? Never heard of a plastisol that can print on anything.

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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 08:42:23 AM »
Onestroke has one called smart white.  It won't do nylon without catalyst though.  It's a nice white, but it's $150 a gallon.

Sonny wants to drop some of this off.  I'll test it and give my review.

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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2012, 09:51:00 AM »

Thumbs up for answering the question vs "call me". ;)

We agree on something for a change!
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2012, 10:12:16 AM »

Thumbs up for answering the question vs "call me". ;)

We agree on something for a change!

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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2012, 10:30:28 AM »

Thumbs up for answering the question vs "call me". ;)

We agree on something for a change!

Next there will be peace in the middle east.

I think it could be solved via email as well.   ;)
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2012, 04:08:49 PM »
Sonny I hope this ain't like the last white ink you had, to your credit you did me right, but I would have to test a small amount first...you have any qts.

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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 07:55:11 AM »
So is this a "NO-BLEED" ink?  Guaranteed to stop dye migration on any substrate?  Hmmm .... if so -- I would by a boatload!

Seriously, there are soooooo many variables in the polyester dying process, that is big claim!
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 10:45:53 AM »
So is this a "NO-BLEED" ink?  Guaranteed to stop dye migration on any substrate?  Hmmm .... if so -- I would by a boatload!

Seriously, there are soooooo many variables in the polyester dying process, that is big claim!

I couldn't find that in Sonny's post--It can go on anything, low bleed was implied, but I didn't read no bleed being promised.  Although it'd be a pretty interesting plastisol if that were the case.


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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2012, 11:06:17 AM »
So is this a "NO-BLEED" ink?  Guaranteed to stop dye migration on any substrate?  Hmmm .... if so -- I would by a boatload!

Seriously, there are soooooo many variables in the polyester dying process, that is big claim!

I couldn't find that in Sonny's post--It can go on anything, low bleed was implied, but I didn't read no bleed being promised.  Although it'd be a pretty interesting plastisol if that were the case.

Thanks and I agree!  I am busting Sonny's chops a bit in a playful manner!

I do not think anyone would really make that claim.  Secondly, the same is true for saying no catalyst needed for 100% nylon .... really.  How about a 100% nylon, waterproofed coated, 4x1 satin weave jacket?  Would like to see that.....

I think it behooves us all to avoid large sweeping statements when there are so many variables.  At the end of the day, printers should take everything a manufacturer states with a grain of salt and test, test, test, test.  BTW - I worked for Wilflex for 25 years and as stated in my sig now work with Nazdar SourceOne; so I am not just blindly making this statement.

I really do not get on here much, but will try to make the time to do so more often....

Thanks and good luck!
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Re: New Xenon White
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2012, 11:16:09 AM »
I agree a sweeping statement means nothig, at the least list the features of this ink what makes it so unique to others already out there? KNown cure and flash temps etc. What is in it that makes it so unique and how that plays with chemistry etc. I personally wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole since the manu cannot even put together a simple spec sheet yet people should buy blindly?
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