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How I feel trying to use dischage and understand it
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2013, 05:09:56 PM »
Hey Brandt, you should get a scale.  I understand how you feel, it almost seems like discharge would just over complicate a system that works.  There is a serious learning curve, a bunch of uncontrollable variables, and it's not for every customer.   That being said, I still get more pumped over the opportunity to print discharge than anything else.


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« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2013, 05:11:55 PM »


Just to piss you guys off I think if I do decide to go with discharge, I will do it with no scale. 

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You know like carrying screens out in open light. 
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« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2013, 05:48:26 PM »
Hey, I got a phone number of a guy you can call and get a great deal on a scale. ;)

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« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2013, 06:21:09 PM »
Hey, I got a phone number of a guy you can call and get a great deal on a scale. ;)

I think I will take a video of me standing on the top of my screen print press, measuring for discharge, holding a unexposed screen in open light.  I will send them to all you guys for Christmas cards.
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« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2013, 06:42:25 PM »
While typing 230 words per minute on the internet and speed reading everyone's post.

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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2013, 07:16:57 PM »
While typing 230 words per minute on the internet and speed reading everyone's post.

Don't forget actually growing a business at a blistering pace ;)

Just hired a sales guy today for the local market.  BOOM.
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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2013, 07:54:14 PM »
6 figures in each division!

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Re: How I feel trying to use dischage and understand it
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2013, 09:22:34 PM »
Hey Brandt. After looking at a lot if the really nice prints you have posted here.  I can tell you that even if you only ran dc underbases it would decrease your amount of flashing and increase your production times. You could still run plastisol overprint colors. That would be a small change and bring the immediate results you could touch and feel with minimal change from what's working for you now. Just sayin.
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« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2013, 07:02:24 AM »
Hey Brandt. After looking at a lot if the really nice prints you have posted here.  I can tell you that even if you only ran dc underbases it would decrease your amount of flashing and increase your production times. You could still run plastisol overprint colors. That would be a small change and bring the immediate results you could touch and feel with minimal change from what's working for you now. Just sayin.

Which is what I am feeling like will be the end result, but I did have expectations of using it in other ways as well, which is why id like to see some other samples from people who are doing it so I can compare what I have to what is probably more realistic.  Then we can form a game plan for it's use in my shop based on that. 

Number one reason I was hoping to use it was to save a screen, since many if not nearly all of our jobs have 2 whites, often per side.  (ub and highlight).  What I seen out of our straight white to shirt I don't know that some of my customers would be satisfied with it vs what they are used to from a ub and highlight white as far as brightness goes anyway. 

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« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2013, 07:04:14 AM »
6 figures in each division!

We aren't ones to let "doors" get in the way of or dictate growth.  ;)

But yes it feels great to grow WELL into 6 figures in a year ;)
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Re: How I feel trying to use dischage and understand it
« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2013, 12:40:45 PM »
Hey Brandt. After looking at a lot if the really nice prints you have posted here.  I can tell you that even if you only ran dc underbases it would decrease your amount of flashing and increase your production times. You could still run plastisol overprint colors. That would be a small change and bring the immediate results you could touch and feel with minimal change from what's working for you now. Just sayin.

Which is what I am feeling like will be the end result, but I did have expectations of using it in other ways as well, which is why id like to see some other samples from people who are doing it so I can compare what I have to what is probably more realistic.  Then we can form a game plan for it's use in my shop based on that. 

Number one reason I was hoping to use it was to save a screen, since many if not nearly all of our jobs have 2 whites, often per side.  (ub and highlight).  What I seen out of our straight white to shirt I don't know that some of my customers would be satisfied with it vs what they are used to from a ub and highlight white as far as brightness goes anyway.
thats possible but on multi color work withou a dc base i run my white last. you may not get the super brite plastisol whites your used to without a dc base and highlite white. either way though your gonna blow the customers away with the improved hand and yourself away with the improved press time. im assuming you revolve some of your jobs due to flashing needs?
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« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2013, 01:01:59 PM »
Hey Brandt. After looking at a lot if the really nice prints you have posted here.  I can tell you that even if you only ran dc underbases it would decrease your amount of flashing and increase your production times. You could still run plastisol overprint colors. That would be a small change and bring the immediate results you could touch and feel with minimal change from what's working for you now. Just sayin.

Which is what I am feeling like will be the end result, but I did have expectations of using it in other ways as well, which is why id like to see some other samples from people who are doing it so I can compare what I have to what is probably more realistic.  Then we can form a game plan for it's use in my shop based on that. 

Number one reason I was hoping to use it was to save a screen, since many if not nearly all of our jobs have 2 whites, often per side.  (ub and highlight).  What I seen out of our straight white to shirt I don't know that some of my customers would be satisfied with it vs what they are used to from a ub and highlight white as far as brightness goes anyway.
thats possible but on multi color work withou a dc base i run my white last. you may not get the super brite plastisol whites your used to without a dc base and highlite white. either way though your gonna blow the customers away with the improved hand and yourself away with the improved press time. im assuming you revolve some of your jobs due to flashing needs?

Yes sir and that is certainly one bonus.  I was though hoping to basically end up using 1 less screen, as we are always having customers wanting MORE colors we get a lot of them that are 7, 8, 9 colors.  7 colors on a 8 color press is tricky even more so on longer runs.  So it looks like that wont happen, but I still will entertain discharge as as under base to improve the hand.

I really just need a larger press, if we grow like last year, we will be going big this year on a press. 
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Re: How I feel trying to use dischage and understand it
« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2013, 01:27:15 PM »
Hey Brandt. After looking at a lot if the really nice prints you have posted here.  I can tell you that even if you only ran dc underbases it would decrease your amount of flashing and increase your production times. You could still run plastisol overprint colors. That would be a small change and bring the immediate results you could touch and feel with minimal change from what's working for you now. Just sayin.

Which is what I am feeling like will be the end result, but I did have expectations of using it in other ways as well, which is why id like to see some other samples from people who are doing it so I can compare what I have to what is probably more realistic.  Then we can form a game plan for it's use in my shop based on that. 

Number one reason I was hoping to use it was to save a screen, since many if not nearly all of our jobs have 2 whites, often per side.  (ub and highlight).  What I seen out of our straight white to shirt I don't know that some of my customers would be satisfied with it vs what they are used to from a ub and highlight white as far as brightness goes anyway.
thats possible but on multi color work withou a dc base i run my white last. you may not get the super brite plastisol whites your used to without a dc base and highlite white. either way though your gonna blow the customers away with the improved hand and yourself away with the improved press time. im assuming you revolve some of your jobs due to flashing needs?

Yes sir and that is certainly one bonus.  I was though hoping to basically end up using 1 less screen, as we are always having customers wanting MORE colors we get a lot of them that are 7, 8, 9 colors.  7 colors on a 8 color press is tricky even more so on longer runs.  So it looks like that wont happen, but I still will entertain discharge as as under base to improve the hand.

I really just need a larger press, if we grow like last year, we will be going big this year on a press.
thats a good problem to have though.  better than the i dont have enough work senario..
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Re: How I feel trying to use dischage and understand it
« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2013, 01:30:06 PM »
The good thing about a DC base is flashing and heat is not an issue. That has been 100 percent of my issues here with 5 plus color jobs. That would make printing a 7 color on a 8 color press easy. You really just need to mess with this stuff. I have been doing it for 3 months and its not as easy as they say but it has advantages. You have to stop wanting it to be something else. Its a tool. Its not perfect. White is not white, get over it. You can't print one white screen and have it be your showing white and underbase for plastisols. Screen prep is more time consuming and its alot easier to make reject shirts. I have yet to have a customer complain or even point out the print as a bad thing. I personally think its a better product to wear.
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Re: How I feel trying to use dischage and understand it
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2013, 01:34:38 PM »
The good thing about a DC base is flashing and heat is not an issue. That has been 100 percent of my issues here with 5 plus color jobs. That would make printing a 7 color on a 8 color press easy. You really just need to mess with this stuff. I have been doing it for 3 months and its not as easy as they say but it has advantages. You have to stop wanting it to be something else. Its a tool. Its not perfect. White is not white, get over it. You can't print one white screen and have it be your showing what and underbase for plastisols. Screen prep is more time consuming and its alot easier to make reject shirts. I have yet to have a customer complain or even point out the print as a bad thing. I personally think its a better product to wear.
well there you go.. thanks jon
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