"He who marches out of step hears another drum." ~ Ken Kesey
We started with the plasticharge and never liked it, always had a hand and not a brite white. Tried the CCI D-White and never looked back. Even got some greens that were not supposed to discharge well to come out nice and brite. Our biggest hurdle now is the dryer. Like Nick said it will feel stiff until t is worked or washed.
Some shirts just don't discharge very well, I found that out while testing shirts with the sales rep one afternoon.Darryl
Are you using the CCI D-white, or Ryonet's version of it? If not, what product are you using?
I've never based down that white discharge. I'll add some water sometimes but it's just 6% activator directly into the white ink and print. I'm sure the more experienced DC guys will chime in but I always assumed if you wanted DC white, you just added activator to the CCI D-white and got after it, no need to base it down unless you wanted a more muted white or needed to stretch a gallon out a little more. TONY!!!! Where you at?
just my opinion and whats works for me, but when i use white discharge i do mix about 15% base to it, usually by eye, and a bit of extra binder, mix, then activator. to me the extra base helps the penetration and dye discharge of the shirt, basically, taking more of the dye out of the shirt and making the white thats there appear brighter. again, just what works for me.
One reason to buy direct from the supplier. No telling what your getting from rebranded inks. Unless you see them pour it in yourself who knows what the hell it is. I would try the 90/10 mix or go 100% ink and see what you get.Can you smell the discharge agent after the shirt cools?
Ill second Brandt - if anyone wants send me a sample of a bright white they got on a dark shirt (preferably using cci) with one hit and the mixture ratio of what to what, ill cover the costs. We seem to be in the same boat - not knowing what brightness we should be expecting to achieve with white discharge and/or white dc and base mix -- particularly on shirt colors such as reds, blues, purples, in addition to navys and blacks.
Ok let me explain. D- base is clear and has binding agents in it.. D- white is white pigment added to clear base. Base is the binding agent that makes the pigment in the ink or that you add stick to the shirt. You did 70 percent clear ink to 30 percent white and expected a bright white. Discharge white will feel like crap until washed. Basing it down a little will help coat all the fibers. This will make the white look brighter since all the viewable fibers have been died.Discharge white is not white. Compared to quick white its about 7 percent less bright. Depending on the shirt color brand and about 10 other things the brightness will very. Unless your putting the discharged white next to a white sheet of paper it looks bright white on a good discharging shirt and color.Hope this helps
If wash a discharge print you will not be able to feel the print. Even that thick crappy white. discharge has its place. Not for every customer.