What dip tank system to go with???

[XG Print]

Looking into moving to a dip tank system.....Have been looking at the Franmar system which seems to be more expensive but looks like it works very well or the Easy Way which is cheaper but from the videos looks like it takes more pressure washing than the Franmar chemicals....I could be wrong here!!  Just been watching youtube   Let me know what you think.
Thanks

[Inkworks]

I was looking at the CCI diptank until I started hearing about how most people seemed to be using ink remover and rinsing before putting the screens in the diptank. At that point it just becomes an expensive, and only slightly easier method of applying emulsion remover, and for me the cost wasn't justified by the potential time savings.

.....that aside, the CCI unit looked to be one of the better ones.....

[Frog]

XG, a search for dip tank here will yield some past discussions.

[dirkdiggler]

i switched to the cci tank after 14 years of not using one, i could kick myself in the arse for not doing it 15 years ago.  I can clean DOUBLE the screens I used to in an hr.

[Inkworks]

Are you de-inking in the diptank? If so which chemicals?

[dirkdiggler]

Thats a myth, you will not be able to deink and remove emulsion in the tank. You will scrub before the tank or after, your choice.  I prefer to do it before the tank.  I use CCI microwash.  Love it.

[Rockers]

Using CCI Gem-Zyme. Great product low price.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

I bought a CCI tank last month after the recent Ft Worth show. I went with Microwash II, and yes, I use ink degradant in a separate step.  Long story short, I'm liking it. No evangelical zeal here, just a positive impressions so far. I am cleaning off the ink, minimal scrubbing, and drying them for a week or so,  until I'm reasonably confident there are no calls for just one more shirt. Then into the tank they go, 6 at a time.  I'm clumsy with my handling system so far, and they float (especially statics) which I dislike, but the emulsion blasts out more easily.  I use a lot of emulsion designed for discharge, and that's where the dip tank has impressed me most.

Stan

[ebscreen]

Indeed, with some of our hardened screens I couldn't see having someone sit there and apply
emulsion remover, wait, re-apply, wait, hope it doesn't dry out, etc....

Dip Tank, it's not sliced bread, but it's close.

[Inkworks]

I don't understand how dipping to apply emulsion remover speeds things up by 100%... I was stoked to get one and start using it, but at best I see a savings of 10-20 seconds per screen compared to brushing it on, they both need to sit a while to let the emulsion remover work. That and the dip tank letting crud build up in the locking strips were the two reasons I decided to look elsewhere for time saving devices and equipment. I love to be convinced otherwise and have screens go through faster!


(Sorry for the hi-jack Mr. Frog, split this out if you want..)

[dirkdiggler]

dip tanks are a bad idea for roller frames, IMO, Great for statics!

[Rockers]

dip tanks are a bad idea for roller frames, IMO, Great for statics!

Why is that? I spoke to the guys at Stretchdevices and they firmly rebuke the idea that the frames will get damaged by using a dip tank.

[dirkdiggler]

dip tanks are a bad idea for roller frames, IMO, Great for statics!

Why is that? I spoke to the guys at Stretchdevices and they firmly rebuke the idea that the frames will get damaged by using a dip tank.

Of course they do, they want to sell more.  I bought 25 used ones from a shop that used them in a dip tank, and almost all of them were junk.  Just my real life experience.

[Printficient]

We at Xenon  have multiple options.  If interested call me at 404-895-1796

[ebscreen]

M3's and a dip tank for 3 or 4 years.
No problems. MZX's maybe...


%100 faster? Not by a long shot.
%30 maybe.

It's also much more thorough. I know when I cleaned
by hand I might miss a corner or something, have to go back.

Lastly, it takes the dumb out of the process.
Showing someone how to dunk a screen, count to 400 hundred (not really)
then blast it is a lot easier than "scrub this stuff on, both sides, all over, set aside
and wait, but not too long, otherwise it will dry in, etc.