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Offline jasonl

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Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« on: November 01, 2012, 10:55:49 PM »
Havent passed a verdict yet, need to play more.  Here is what we did today, white looks AWESOME and this has been washed.

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 01:43:15 AM »
I have done a few jobs with them and they work good. Easy to mix I have yet to use a mixer and get smooth colors every time. I have mixed a few colors that didn't turn out perfect but they were very close to close enough. I know they have changed the pigment load in the Rubin red since I got my kit so yours may be more color accurate then mine. Let me know any pantone colors you have tried and work out. I am trying to get some standard colors worked out.

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 08:41:46 AM »
I would like your input aswell, I tried for hours yesterday to get a good 185 red, no luck.
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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 09:25:45 AM »
Try backing off on the activator

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 12:18:37 PM »
Thats 6%, what do you recommend?
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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 12:22:25 PM »
Sericol red calls for 4.5% activator
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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 12:22:49 PM »
Try 3

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 12:25:01 PM »
And bump your pigment load up a bit.

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 12:41:58 PM »
So I just spoke with a CCI rep and will be soon purchasing the pigment kit (for those interested here are the prices I was quoted):

$75 for 8 oz each of the 14 concentrates
$90 for the above plus a gallon of the Base

He said that they do not offer any PMS matching system so my question to you guys is how do you mix in order to achieve particular colors.  Are you using the Matsui color matching system (if their concentrates are similar to CCI) or will the discharged shirt look similar to the base/pigment mix before going to press (assuming that you add the right amount of activator).  I am sure there is a lot more to this because different shirts (brand and color) discharge differently but being that this is new to me I am not even sure where to start in order to start experimenting and honing in on what works for us.

I will now sit back and learn from the gurus!

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 12:46:08 PM »
the CCI PMS color matching system is the formulas in your pantone book.
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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 12:47:10 PM »
...I was told by our rep that the formulas in the PMS book itself (the recipe under each square) are how you mix colors, which i thought was excellent and one of the big sell points of the system. Unless that changed, you may wanna double-check with your rep.
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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 12:54:07 PM »
Did that yellow hit the mark you were looking for?
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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 12:57:22 PM »
Correct use the % in the Pantone book. Apparently CCI has matched the Pantone ink colors such as Rubine, Rhodomine, Reflex, Trans white etc. I mentally raised an eyebrow when I was told this but in either case, expect to tweak them here and there.

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 01:01:42 PM »
Did that yellow hit the mark you were looking for?

Interested as well.  I haven't dug into it real hard yet but sericol yellows are oh so close, but not quite there.  I was considering the CCI pigs simply for boosting and mixing any colors we can't nail with the texcharge. 

Is it par for the course to go down to 4-5% activator on yellows as well?  That was going to be my next move.

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Re: Got my CCI Pigments and Tested today!
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 01:07:53 PM »
We have done our yellows at 4-5 on the texcharge. I did it at 7% and it went a little on the green tint side. We have not done a ton of yellows though.
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