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Offline Printhouse

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2012, 04:14:19 PM »
Very true!


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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2012, 04:43:44 PM »
If it's as clean in and out as it looks in those pics and only hours away just take it at that price man.

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 03:13:26 PM »
Well I head out at 3 am tomorrow morning to pick this press up!  I am very excited to get it home.  Double checked the wiring today at the shop and all is set to go. 

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 03:19:10 PM »
Congratulations. I loved my old Rototex 2.

Print size is pretty large as well.

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2012, 03:47:39 PM »
Congratulations. I loved my old Rototex 2.

Print size is pretty large as well.

Sean, where the hell did you find one of those with the squeegeelizers?  I've never seen a Roto or an Arrow so far with it.  I'd snap one up in a heartbeat if I did. 

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 03:57:13 PM »
The 2 was the machine with air. Some of the Multiprinters had it too.

My old one is out in Missouri or somewheres.


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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2012, 09:41:12 AM »
Your going to love that little press. 
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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2012, 11:30:17 AM »
We are on the way home with it.  It needs some going through and cleaning and greasing everything but over all it is all there and he said it functioned well before he tore it down last night.

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2012, 01:11:53 PM »
Well....  this guy made it sound like he was running this thing daily and that he was moving from his current location to a new one where this would not fit.  When we got there this was in a pole barn behind his house.  He had already tore it down but cont. to act like he had been running it.  In reality this thing has not been run in a long time.  We put a couple of the heads on it today and it powers up and when you hit the independent head controls for a test print the head just keeps cycling the squeegee and flood bar.  All the heads we install do this so I know it is not just a bad switch on a head.  For some reason the indexing motor is not being given a single that the print stroke is complete and that the table fork can lower and the table motor to turn.  I have no schematic which is making things that much more fun!  Anyone that can source a manual or a schematic for this thing would be my new best friend!

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2012, 03:56:14 PM »
AWT-GPI.  You'll need the serial.  No serial and they'll have to get pics and charge for engineering time to figure out which schematic is yours. They will want to charge you for the schematic either way but, if you are buying some parts or talk nice, will email one for free often. 

Parts from them as well or Aero, Bill is a good dude and bought "Rick's Crazy Field 'o Parts" recently, inheriting what is presumably the largest collection of spares for Americans in existence. 

I'm just talking out my arse here, but, is there a dummy plug or anything that you might need to bypass a safety on the heads?  It would make sense that you could independent print a head but no indexing if the safety was flipped.  The idea might've been you undo a safety cable and get in there between the arms to test print and make adjustments and don't want the machine to index on you under any circumstances while you are in there.   Just an idea. 

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2012, 07:33:41 PM »
I will contact AWT this Monday with my serial number.  I just cannot figure out while after the test print cycle it does not stop..... Just keeps right on cycling that head.  The sensor switch is working correctly per multi meter.  And this is each head. 

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2012, 11:05:49 PM »
The guy that I bought this from called tonight and he claimed that with a load on the squeegee and flood bar that the continuous cycling problem would happen.  He claims that as soon as there is a load on them will not do it.  I think my table issue has something to do with the head position sensors.... I am sure if the computer thinks even one of those heads are down it will not let it rotate.  I think I need to make sure I have those set all in the correct position. 

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2012, 10:26:51 AM »
Wiring schematic just arrived via email..... Back to trouble shooting what is up with this thing.  I am not sure but I think if it thinks any head is down that it will not allow power to the table.  First step is to make sure all the head position wire are correct.  With several head off the press I may have to connect the wires that are hanging free.

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2012, 03:15:02 PM »
My press had one head that would do that. I can't recall how I fixed it though.
You are correct in that the machine won't index while the head was cycling.

Does each head have a test print button on it? Or are you controlling from the panel?

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Re: American Rototex Autos.....
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2012, 03:55:00 PM »
Each head has independent test print buttons as well as the main control panel.  I found that the micro switches that show the end position of the print heads were stuck on almost all the heads from not being used.  We freed them up and lubed them and now for they stop after one cycle.  I can easy see how to rotate that cam 180 degrees to get it to stop at the front to have the screen flooded.  Now I am going through everything to figure out why we have no power to the table indexing section.  Following the schematic I think I have some ideas.  Several small relays and power supplies run a lot of things on the table system so I will systematically start going through everything one by one.  Getting closer.  When all said and done i should know this press really well.   I will have to take a pic but I have one had that has a front mount that is different front the rest and appears to be swing up or something.  It has cam locks on the side of it.  Did your press have anything like that.  It also has holes in the arms of the head like something was mounted there.