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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #75 on: October 24, 2012, 05:41:34 PM »
Funny as hell, thick does this apply to anyone here LOL

Darryl
Ps  brandt you'll need to print on different colors (some colors don't discharge as good) and discharge work better on 100% even though I think Tony got away with some 50/50
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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #76 on: October 24, 2012, 05:44:34 PM »
The CCI D white has a weird consistency you will find.  I use it but like to mix my standard white plastisol with the discharge base when using it as an under base through a 230.  Now that we have been doing discharge I am kicking myself for not doing it sooner.  Clean up is a breeze.  Listen to Tony and do not tape up the bottom of that screen.  The emulsion really needs to breath.  I found that the hard way!  We do use hardner x also. 

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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #77 on: October 24, 2012, 05:46:38 PM »
Funny as hell, thick does this apply to anyone here LOL

Darryl
Ps  brandt you'll need to print on different colors (some colors don't discharge as good) and discharge work better on 100% even though I think Tony got away with some 50/50

Thanks for info, most everything we do is on 100%.  Mostly black.
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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #78 on: October 24, 2012, 05:51:15 PM »
The CCI D white has a weird consistency you will find.  I use it but like to mix my standard white plastisol with the discharge base when using it as an under base through a 230.  Now that we have been doing discharge I am kicking myself for not doing it sooner.  Clean up is a breeze.  Listen to Tony and do not tape up the bottom of that screen.  The emulsion really needs to breath.  I found that the hard way!  We do use hardner x also.

So you are using your white WITH or IN PLACE of the CCI White?  Sorry for the dumb question.
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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #79 on: October 24, 2012, 05:55:18 PM »
Discharge chart from Gildan. Thought this may help... I dont mind sharing any info I may have although it may not be much but here you go anyway.

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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #80 on: October 24, 2012, 05:57:51 PM »
Discharge chart from Gildan. Thought this may help... I dont mind sharing any info I may have although it may not be much but here you go anyway.

Thanks!
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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #81 on: October 24, 2012, 06:37:07 PM »
Hey Brandt whats your phone number? I want to call you, I have a feeling your a mute or is it you have a girls voice. LOL. That's the only answer to why your so against talking on the phone.

I have to agree with you on trying to work around dealing on the phone. Its much faster to just punch in orders and a credit card then try to get your sales guy on the phone. I also think dealing with a sales rep is worth the time. You get inside information that can really help your company get ahead of competitors.

As far as waterbase let me say this. Its another system to learn. It has its advantages and some disadvantages just like everything.

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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2012, 06:47:23 PM »
I use the straight white for my all white prints.  When using it as an under base I have been mixing 50/50 standard plastisol white and discharge base.  It just makes a much smoother ink for us.

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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #83 on: October 24, 2012, 06:48:22 PM »
Never heard of anyone mixing water base and plastisol together. Seems like oil and water.

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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #84 on: October 24, 2012, 06:48:57 PM »
Hey Brandt whats your phone number? I want to call you, I have a feeling your a mute or is it you have a girls voice. LOL. That's the only answer to why your so against talking on the phone.

I have to agree with you on trying to work around dealing on the phone. Its much faster to just punch in orders and a credit card then try to get your sales guy on the phone. I also think dealing with a sales rep is worth the time. You get inside information that can really help your company get ahead of competitors.

As far as waterbase let me say this. Its another system to learn. It has its advantages and some disadvantages just like everything.

I hear ya.  The problem with me is I am a talker just like everyone else that is passionate about this type of work so when they start talking so do I.  Next thing you know its not a 3 minute call, its a 1hr call and I just can't do that.  Add that time up over a year.  I bet its staggering.  I know because I have spoken with some of you on here.   haha.

I can't wait to mess up some shirts, I mean learn discharge.
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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2012, 06:50:02 PM »
I use the straight white for my all white prints.  When using it as an under base I have been mixing 50/50 standard plastisol white and discharge base.  It just makes a much smoother ink for us.

Ok, ill keep that in mind as we try some stuff.  We know nothing really so not scared to try stuff.
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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #86 on: October 24, 2012, 07:46:33 PM »
I use the straight white for my all white prints.  When using it as an under base I have been mixing 50/50 standard plastisol white and discharge base.  It just makes a much smoother ink for us.

If this is possible why is there Plasticharge? I figured the waterbase and plastisol would not mix, I guess I am wrong.


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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #87 on: October 24, 2012, 07:52:32 PM »
Yeah, never heard of mixing plastisol and waterbased. I would think it'd be like oil and water. Apparently the proof
is in the pudding though!

This:


Is waterbased discharge base mixed with just a little waterbased white and plastisol on top.
No multiple flashes or going around a million times. All wet on wet with a short flash after
the discharge to keep it from creeping around.

Using discharge white in one screen as the underbase and highlite would be ideal, but we've
only been able to pull it off once or twice, and usually only with one plastisol color on top.
Discharge white is a pretty "sticky" product.


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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2012, 07:55:57 PM »
The disharge base that was shown in his screen shot is the plasticharge base mix.  I use my regular plastisols and mix it 50/50.  If you are doing light color tees you can then run it as a direct waterbase ink or if doing darks you mix 5% activator in and run it as a discharge.  I run mine at 90-120 seconds in the dryer with the air on. 

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Re: Printing a 15" white circle on black shirts
« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2012, 08:02:39 PM »
im sure it wont matter here, but i text my orders into my CCI rep Jaime Fernandez.  takes less time than making a post here and i get a text a few min later telling me when he will bring it by and a total cost.  But i did have to call him first to set that up.  yeah that call took all of 4 minutes.
Yeah and I emailed my orders to our CCI contact and he deleted the email and still has not replied to my new email. So one week after trying to place an order we are not even close to getting a price of them. Will take my business somewhere else.