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Lady Died up on the Hudson whitewater rafting....
« on: September 28, 2012, 01:34:50 PM »
Not good...Just came out...

A guide was drunk and was guiding some customers down the river and hit some rocks, people popped out including the guide it looks like and one of the ladies got swept away and found her 5 miles down stream....makes me sick...

been quite awhile since that happened up there...

The company that was responsible Myself and my buddy used to work for when i started, we left when my buddy started running his own company..

That company has been a mess...getting in trouble using unlicensed guides, going to court about it and what not..Nothing ever happens to the owner though...2nd biggest private landowner in adirondacks..hes got the $$...but his thinking has always been bizarre....

I can't believe someone lost their life.....its different with me taking risks in big water, but not someone else...

Guide charged with homocide.



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Re: Lady Died up on the Hudson whitewater rafting....
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 02:02:33 PM »
sad, i am glad the guide is being charged.

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Re: Lady Died up on the Hudson whitewater rafting....
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 02:32:27 PM »
yeah..the owner of the company I wish would get his too..I know nothing will happen to the owner..Its not even high water..but lower water is more dangerous..


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Re: Lady Died up on the Hudson whitewater rafting....
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 03:15:40 PM »
So sad.  Family must be horrified. 


I worked for a company in OhioPyle Pa.  They employed many guides in the off season. They told me some funny stores and some sad. Most had to do with drinking.


When I was there, an 18 year old girl out partying in the evening fell off a rock into the water. It was high water season somewhere near or just after winter and the water was rushing. Rivers were closed during this time for rafting. They never found her till spring time a few months later. She was churning at the bottom of an eddy all that time.  Horrible way to go.


Another time during the same season of high water on a warm day, again, the river was closed to rafting but up near the area where everyone picnics, one dumb teen decided to dare himself to get across on the caution rope.  River was so high he couldn't maintain enough strength to cross any further so he was stuck out in the middle just holding on. All the while screaming for help and that he was loosing grip at any time.


It was suicide for the average person to get yourself out there also. 2 people tried and could barely make it back to safety from going out only a qtr the way. Then from out of the stores a few hundred yards back into the woods ran a gorilla sized man (a guide) and apparently super strong came through the crowed, tied a rope on to a tree and and then onto himself.  He must have been 6'5 and 300lb of muscle. He worked over the rope out to the guy (about a 40' hand over hand while being pulled by the current as his weight and body sagged into the water that was going with such a force I can't describe.  He quickly got to the teen, tied the rope around the both of them and let go. SWAP! the rope flung taught straight down the river in a split second and you could no longer see either under the water. BOOM! He pops up and all of us grabbed hold of the rope and reeled them both in to show. By that time, he was practically already on to shore but we were making sure.


That story probably happens a couple times a year there. It may not have been that guys first time at that. He did know what to do and how to do it fast. This story was a good one. This happened in a time when nobody carried cel phones with a camera or video. It happens so much there that it didn't even make the news but it would be a great short heroic action film. That kid lived on to do other stupid stuff I'm sure, but maybe not that anymore.




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Re: Lady Died up on the Hudson whitewater rafting....
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 03:51:38 PM »
Flush drowning happen alot out west in big water..been out there can def see how it happens...My balls are in my throat when i am out there in spring..

On the upper hudson, its been awhile since a death has occurred...really the law of averages caught up...but i can see how a guide can be drunk...well we've all been hungover, but still drunk at 10:30 am ...holy crap


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Re: Lady Died up on the Hudson whitewater rafting....
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 04:11:13 PM »
this is sad Rob, too close to home I bet. Where did this actually happen? I was just up there in August. . .no reason for such an accident.
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Re: Lady Died up on the Hudson whitewater rafting....
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2012, 08:40:54 AM »
Indian Lake....We put in up there and go down the indian river for 3 miles..very narrow and shallow, but continous rapids, thats where they fell out and she dies...then you reach the confluence with the upper hudson and go down 14 miles....

very easy as a first year guide to hit rocks and lose people on the indian...ive done it many times and lost people also..
One more week left in the season, if you are inexpierenced guide you should at least run with another boat to help in case of this...but being drunk..who knows...