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The importance of art
Artelf2xs:
Honestly, I'd have to say it goes both ways.
Our best customers are the ones who say they saw our site and wanted that level of art and most the shops out there are just selling clip art and text and charging crazy art charges.
these are for events and companies who want to look good!
On the other hand as a high-end designer and production artist, I know that many people want their creation on a shirt for a reunion or small company and they just dont give a hoot about quality, they want what they want when they want it.... Usually right now. and peoples digital muck is worse then the bar napkin sketches we used to get 25 years ago.
the majority of consumers do not know what quality is nor do they care. they equate t-shirts with CHEAP stenciled letters. However there are lots of folks that want their Custom apparel to rivval that in the market place...
Sorry I have kinda had a bad attitude about people wanting push button cheap shirts from their 72 dpi internet thumbnail they " DESIGNED" aka stole of Google images. but it is business for this smal shop.
Being able to produce High-end art for the general client over stenciled crap will always make you hands above the competition and get you the best marketing ( Word of mouth)
Clark:
--- Quote from: Artelf2xs on May 27, 2011, 01:45:29 PM ---the majority of consumers do not know what quality is nor do they care. they equate t-shirts with CHEAP stenciled letters. However there are lots of folks that want their Custom apparel to rivval that in the market place...
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See this is where I believe alot of folks can do better. It is our job to sell and at the same time teach the client that there is a better way. I'm not talking about doing high-end on every job. But a talented artist that runs $50-$75/hr can do alot of work in one hour. And it's my thought that out sourcing to very qualified production artists for even an hour will put you above most other shops. In order to not eat that hours worth of time, you must charge for art..and you must show the client the difference and the value they are getting for the $75.
Clark:
Here's a quick example of what I am talking about. The first image is some crappy online thing that these people have been getting for a couple years. And they thought the art was okay, but they were unhappy with the price..they thought the price of the finished goods was too much. The second image cost $50 to get done. Very simple production art, and about an hour worth of work for a good production artist. It's not the Mona Lisa, but I also think the customer sees the value between the getting free crap vs. a $50 art charge. Am I wrong to see significant value in the difference...a value that should be charged for?
killergraphics:
Guys believe me I'm not on any side but one. And I not trying to be hard to get along with.
These new guys reading these are just like I was years ago and want and need the help.
I just feel that they need to know it is something in the middle.
Most of them will never make it to your level, hell I will never make it to your level.
They just need to know it is something in the middle.
A good technical printer can do well in the middle.
ebscreen:
I agree Clark, I think we have all printed our share of instant car wash rags.
For me the trouble is not in producing or charging for better art, but in finding a way to
say "your art sucks" nicely.
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