Reflecto Ink

[Scobey Peterman]

We have been printing a job with One Stroke Ink 221 Reflecto Silver ink.

We have been using it on 110 mesh.

It seem to dry up in the screen very fast. I;m having to wipe it out or print it on paper to clean the screen.

Suggestion and/or comments need to print a better job.

[mk162]

it's usually the base that is leaving the ink.  You are probably putting it through the wrong mesh count and leaving too much reflective stuff in the screen.  try lowering your mesh count

[blue moon]

it's usually the base that is leaving the ink.  You are probably putting it through the wrong mesh count and leaving too much reflective stuff in the screen.  try lowering your mesh count

I think this makes sense! check the spec sheet from the manufacturer. The "reflective stuff" is little glass beads and they have to clear the mesh. If the opening is not big enough you are in trouble.

We use the Optilux 507 which has the beads small enough to go through a 230.

pierre

[Scobey Peterman]

I will try it on an 86 mesh and see what happens.

Thanks

[blue moon]

I will try it on an 86 mesh and see what happens.

Thanks

221 Reflecto is designed to print on manual or automatic presses without the hassle of cleaning screens often
or printing through low detail screen mesh. 221 Reflecto will pass through 61 - 86 mesh with ease, making
it the most printer friendly reflective ink in the industry. 

It sounds like a 61 might not be a bad idea if you have one.

pierre

[Frog]

Okay, Pierre beat me to it, I went straight to the One Stroke site and found the same info. One of those "when in doubt, read the instructions" moments lol!

[mk162]

or when in doubt, listen to Brad?  I think I was dead on before reading instructions.  This is a common problem with shimmer and metallic inks.  I am used to it from the days of long contract runs with the old metallic inks.  Not fun.

[tonypep]

All above is correct. When printing particle borne inks through mesh counts higher than specified you will find that the screen is acting as a filter, trapping and holding back the particles while allowing the base to pass through.
I make my own reflective with the 3M beads and an HD clear; allowing us to control the bead to base ratio. Union had a water base binder for this as well that, while superior to the plastisol product, was a bitch to print. I would normally charge $1.00 minimum mark up for this.

[ZooCity]

Tony, are you using a straight hd clear or a particle base? 

WFX makes an epic particle base that I was going to pick up next time we have a glitter job.

All perfect advice above on this.  I find our pair of 90/71 screens are the go to for particle inks until you get to glitter size, then the 40 tpi comes out.  That mesh is like a screen door.  Check your mesh spec for the opening size v. the particle size when in doubt.

[tonypep]

Theres a base from WFX maybe called Glitter Base I forget. It is designed to "melt" into the fabric post cure allowing maximum sparkle or reflection.

[ZooCity]

My concern was that once we were given a misformulated batch of shimmer ink.  The base was not properly made to hold in the particles after curing and it was one of the biggest headaches we've faced.  Not going to repeat that ever. 

I would imagine any properly formulated clear base with enough viscosity would have no problem here, that was (hopefully) a one time thing. 

Sorry, derailing thread a little.

[Sbrem]

We've pushed ours through Murakami 110S with good results. Also check out Saati's (at least that's where we buy it) 81 SDE, it has a fine thread that acts like a 60 mesh, which was our go to for white in the early nineties...

Steve