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Offline Logoman

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Stencil Remover
« on: August 17, 2012, 07:37:26 AM »
I just bought a quart of Stencil Remover  25/1 and paid $92.00 for it. This stuff is getting really expensive any other options?
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 07:43:13 AM »
we use CCI Envirostrip

on Nazdars website a gallon sells for 35.74 and can be diluted 10:1 


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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 08:21:26 AM »
yes, Logo, that does sound very high for a quart. I thought that even the highly concentrated ones like that are usually closer to $30. What kind is it? Perhaps you should double check that you weren't charged for a gallon.
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 09:11:21 AM »
The active ingredient in most if not all stencil removers is sodium metaperiodate. I'm sure I spelled it wrong but it was mostly sold as a dry agent before the mfgrs figured ot they could make more money by using H20 as a carrier. Soon  everyone wised up and they smartly switched to "concentrates".
To be fair this may have something to to do with shipping constraints. Either way it is a fairly inexpensive product and you should shop around.
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 09:56:54 AM »
The use of bleach as either an emergency substitute, or cheapskate home remedy used to come up frequently on the old TSPMB (and I bet it still pops up on TSF nowadays!)

My first few years did not involve the use of direct emulsions, but rather indirect films, both knife cut and photographic like today's (though with carbon arcs, of course)
I do remember the shift away from silk to polyester and nylon because of the bleach or emulsion remover's harshness.
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 10:08:06 AM »
The use of bleach as either an emergency substitute, or cheapskate home remedy used to come up frequently on the old TSPMB (and I bet it still pops up on TSF nowadays!)

My first few years did not involve the use of direct emulsions, but rather indirect films, both knife cut and photographic like today's (though with carbon arcs, of course)
I do remember the shift away from silk to polyester and nylon because of the bleach or emulsion remover's harshness.

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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 11:06:33 AM »
First prints I did were knife cut and indirect film, you callin me old?   ;D

The other thing about using the powdered form as opposed to a liquid is the handling--most of the powder ER's I've found have to be shipped hazmat--and there go your savings.


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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 11:22:26 AM »
powder is super cheap in the long run.

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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 12:26:19 PM »
At Xenon the price for our 25 to 1 is 58.5 per Gallon.
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 02:23:26 PM »
You guys may want to take a look at CCI Gemzyme. About $27 a gallon it can be diluted up to 20:1.
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 04:11:34 PM »
I buy crystals from ICC. I love it. I can not find an invoice but I know I like the price...
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 04:31:40 PM »
Did they ship hazardous?
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 04:54:45 PM »
We use SPA emulsion remover in our dip tank. Just did a total flush and refill of a 40 gallon dip tank, 15 gals of SPA emulsion remover, the rest water, screens dipped in this mix are ready for the pressure washer after 2 mins of dip. Pretty awesome stuff. I believe we pay about 125.00 per 5 gallon of the SPA emulsion remover. I prefer it over Franmar, and Easi-way that we've tried in the past.
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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 05:33:55 PM »
Now I'm curious if there are suppliers shipping it standard--I know the stuff from performance does, and the ICC rep gave me some samples last month and mentioned they come hazmat as well, perhaps some suppliers are not?

Back when I used ER-80, it was 20% or so periodic acid, and it was the strongest stuff I could get without weird shipping... but it could have been because of local delivery.

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Re: Stencil Remover
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 06:11:01 PM »
Now I'm curious if there are suppliers shipping it standard--I know the stuff from performance does, and the ICC rep gave me some samples last month and mentioned they come hazmat as well, perhaps some suppliers are not?

Back when I used ER-80, it was 20% or so periodic acid, and it was the strongest stuff I could get without weird shipping... but it could have been because of local delivery.

ER-80? is that stronger than ER-35?