discharge 4CP on black?

[ravenmark]

Stoked to see the results of our discharge underbase attempt today. I can do the best seps in the world but it means nothing without a great printer. Great prints take great teams.

[Homer]

that is awesome guys, both of you. I'm sure P will be calling you up soon for tips!

still using that kiwo discharge emulsion?

[jasonl]

for sure!  Dont know why people knock it, its the best emulsion i have used in years.

[3Deep]

Jasonl you guys sux!!!! I,m jealous as heck very nice print and seps...If I could all I would print is cymk all day, but I have a hard time getting my colors right at times.   You guys hit that just right, plus I,m a big fan of marvel comics.

Darryl

[jasonl]

Jasonl you guys sux!!!! I,m jealous as heck very nice print and seps...If I could all I would print is cymk all day, but I have a hard time getting my colors right at times.   You guys hit that just right, plus I,m a big fan of marvel comics.

Darryl

thanks, my hat is off to Derek, or (Ravenmark) without him, I am nothing.  We have been doing this together for about 15 years.  Both of our heads together can do some special things sometimes.

[ZooCity]

That looks so tight!  Well done you two. 

What was the spec again?  Dishcarge UB with Union Triple Strength plastisol top cmyk?  Deeetaaaailsssss..... 

[3Deep]

uestion, union triple strength cymk inks I,m thinking gives you a brighter print or what, I would love to use more cymk if I can get the color dialed in more.

Darryl

[jasonl]

The printed pics I posted are straight PLASTISOL.  Black shirt and white shirt.  I did 3 hours worth of testing today with the discharge base from CCI.  My opinion is it sux for this application.  I cleaned the screen and dropped in some Sericol HO White for the underbase and BAM!  It looks pretty awesome with no hand.  I am doing a wash test at this moment to get true results.  Pretty much what I already knew though, SERICOL IN HANDS DOWN THE BEST DISCHARGE SYSTEM AVAILABLE.  IMO!  AND, UNION TRIPLE STRENGTH CMYK IS THE BEST 4CP ON THE MARKET!  IMO.

[jasonl]

It really looks great, I cant get a good pic.  But this looks and feels AMAZING.  Sericol discharge white, with cmyk on top.

[Screened Gear]

good job. It looks alot like the one I did a few years back. (yours is better) The colors get a little washed out one the discharge base. Looking at your 3 picks the white is much deeper colors and the plastisol white and the discharge look almost the same. Is that true or is it just the pictures.

[ZooCity]

The printed pics I posted are straight PLASTISOL.  Black shirt and white shirt.  I did 3 hours worth of testing today with the discharge base from CCI.  My opinion is it sux for this application.  I cleaned the screen and dropped in some Sericol HO White for the underbase and BAM!  It looks pretty awesome with no hand.  I am doing a wash test at this moment to get true results.  Pretty much what I already knew though, SERICOL IN HANDS DOWN THE BEST DISCHARGE SYSTEM AVAILABLE.  IMO!  AND, UNION TRIPLE STRENGTH CMYK IS THE BEST 4CP ON THE MARKET!  IMO.

Where you comparing CCI clear Discharge Base to Sericol HO White or is that a typo?
 
We've found Sericol to be perfect except for the HO White, discharges to a dull, 'boney' whiteish tone.  CCI's Discharge White whoops it hands down.  I thought the CCI bases were great too.  But what we were testing for is not for the application you're using it for. 

[jasonl]

The prints with the CCI discharge base were so bad, I didnt post any of them here.  The last pic is Sericol HO base with cmyk on top.  I tried to get good pics, but my phone camera will not do it any justice.  It really looks great and not washed out at all.

I have tried cci white and clear and both FAIL for me.  The sericol white is my favorite so far. 

With that being said, I can get a pretty good representation with plain old white plastisol and cmyk.

I will definitely be doing more with the sericol white so I can make a good judgement.  I may be trying the Magna series soon with my rep at my shop.

But, for cmyk, Union Triple Strength all the way!

[ravenmark]

It really looks great, I cant get a good pic.  But this looks and feels AMAZING.  Sericol discharge white, with cmyk on top.

Your phone cam definitely does not do the actual print any justice. The plastisol UB made for more vibrant primary & secondary colors on our tests. On the flip side what little that was lost in their vibrancy was made up for in spades by the hand of the print with the Sericol UB.

[ZooCity]

Crazy.  I thought the CCI White was straight baller compared to the Sericol HO.  Just a way brighter, truer white out of the CCI instead of the bone tone from the Sericol.   We've had to pull the Sericol HO a couple times now and replace with CCI White. 

I wonder what we're doing differently?  Probably substrates/dye lots.

Some better pictures would be sweet. 

[ebscreen]

I didn't like Sericol white either, too browny. That said, it's a lot thinner,
and probably overprints much easier than the thicker stuff.