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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 03:48:06 PM »
two words....roller frames!!!



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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 03:49:35 PM »
two words....roller frames!!!

Some day.  Between buying the building and a boat I need to breath lol. 
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2012, 03:59:03 PM »
Brandt FYI you print better than a lot of people with roller frames do. Just saying :D
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2012, 04:05:46 PM »
Thank you sir.  I feel like we hold our own.  ;D
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2012, 04:57:02 PM »
I agree with Mike.  Wow did I just say that?  lol.  I would look at your reclaiming.  You said the new girl was a lot faster then your previous person.  Is she pressure washing from the inside of the screen, holding the nozzle too close...  You get the idea. 
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 05:18:51 PM »
A boat huh?  I've been down that road...good luck buddy, hope you get your money's worth out of it.
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 08:12:16 PM »
I got an 18.6 Champion bass boat in the back that has not seen water in over 6 years.  Goes about 65 mph on the lake.  Bought it back in '86 for like 12k.  A new one now is like 35k and I'd only get about $3500 if I tried to sell it.  I'll hold on to it (for now) in case I get some time to go fishing.
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 08:26:28 PM »
Are all the screens from the same source? Sounds like not so good glue, or bad prep before stretching, etc.


Or someone snuck something evil into the reclaim tank (less likely)
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2012, 08:51:15 PM »
I got an 18.6 Champion bass boat in the back that has not seen water in over 6 years.  Goes about 65 mph on the lake.  Bought it back in '86 for like 12k.  A new one now is like 35k and I'd only get about $3500 if I tried to sell it.  I'll hold on to it (for now) in case I get some time to go fishing.

You are in Houston right?  Wanna take it in some salt water?  I'd make the trip over there for a good run into some brackish waters! :)

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 01:19:50 AM »
No way Jose.  I used to have an old fish and ski that I used in Galveston bay.  I'd get bounced around well when ships came up the channel to the Port but it had high gunnels.  This boat would be easily sunk if anchored down and fishing.  Not to mention, I don't like what saltwater does to the motor internals and the chrome.   :)
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 01:26:33 AM »
Well, I was only trying to help you get out there and get some fishing done.

Could have wrote it off on your taxes as we would be talking shop the whole time I'm sure. ;)

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2012, 05:49:04 AM »
Are all the screens from the same source? Sounds like not so good glue, or bad prep before stretching, etc.


Or someone snuck something evil into the reclaim tank (less likely)

Same place.
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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2012, 08:47:57 AM »
I just want to add a little bit more info (sorry i dont get on here much lol)....its been about 1 a week for 7 weeks. 

90% of the time it's happened when i've pulled it out of the cabinet to put emulsion on.  and then i yell "ARE YOU SERIOUS"

it's generally a 6-8" section that has separated from the side. within 2-3 days the whole side has come unglued.

I've always bought my screens from poconoscreen. 

Some of these have been used probably 100 times over 5 years, at least 1 was only used once.

mesh #'s are from 137's, to 158's to 230's.

The only thing i have changed in the mix is changing to a pink degreaser by ICC chemicals that smells like cherries...just brush a light coating on there and hose it off...i dont ever put it on the 'frame' part.

when i do it, i always work from the back side of the screen, i have no idea what "my other people" are doing because i cant baby sit but i guess i will have to eavesdrop in there next time and re-teach.

i keep the drying cabinet on about 15-20 minutes tops and i think it maxes out at 100 degrees...(again, hasnt been an issue in the 5 years previous)

super frustrating....P.S., i couldnt stop him from buying this boat. lol :-|

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2012, 10:25:15 AM »
If you get a hundred cycles out of some of them, they're doing pretty good--although it's probably worth giving them a little crap if you cycled a screen once and it popped like that. 
Sounds like they're putting decent tension on them at least.  It's pretty hard to get a screen with 12 N/cm to pop like that, no matter how crappy you glue it.    :)

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Re: Sceens letting go?
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2012, 11:01:09 AM »
I don't have much to add to this but we did use statics for a few years.  The only time any of our screens detached was when we bought from a particular supplier and I'm certain they didn't prep the screen properly or glue them properly.  We have statics still that don't get used much but they are 5 years old and none of them are releasing, my guess would be poor quality screen making.  They make those screens so that they will hold up to dip tanks and any other chems we throw at them, and if you're doing business as usual and they are failing then I think it's the source. 
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