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Offline WoodenTShirts

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Opinions on presses.
« on: June 11, 2012, 12:37:40 PM »
Hello everyone. I'm looking to get a new press (either a 4/4, 6/4 or 6/6). I really have no knowledge of what the quality of the different companies is like. I currently have a 4/4 that has no brand listed on it, and the micro registration is absolutely terrible (The heads are also getting stripped). I've got up to $4000 (hopefully a little less) to spend and I'm hoping you fine folks could recommend some quality presses for the price that have decent micro reg. Or actually if you could also tell me what companies to stay away from I would also appreciate that.

Thanks,
Jason
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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 12:45:52 PM »
First off, welcome, I'm so glad that you found your way here from the ghost town you first visited.

As was mentioned, you can't go wrong with the Vastex 2000 or Antec Legend, but in the used market, from about $1500 and up you may also  find a lot of choices from various Hopkins iterations, Workhorse, R Jennings and others.

You just need to, at this point, avoid the entry level machines like CAPS and even the pretty good Odyssey from Workhorse, unless you come across a great deal. And, there are plenty of great deals out there,
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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 12:59:59 PM »
I bought a workhorse Odyssey new as a second press to my used Hopkins press, and the odyssey is a really good press, but I did beef it up to handle a heavy work load.  If you have the money buy a good press to start with with as many heads you can stand,if you need to save cash and buy other stuff, the used market will net you some of those good press's for a steal sometimes.

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 01:12:21 PM »
I paid $4500 for a used ( barely) 6/6 M&R chameleon side clamps , nice press and have seen more around that price used.  May be worth doing a couple weeks of daily searches on google until one pops up?

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 01:20:45 PM »
4/4, 6/4 and 6/6 presses all do different things.  4/4's are like sportscars...built for speed, 6/4 are like a luxury car with added convenience. 6/6's are like 18 wheelers.  What are you going to do with this press?  If you can only have one press the 6/6 gives you the most capability but they are heavy and slow and have a big footprint.  They all have their place in a shop.  A lot depends on what type of work you do. 
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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 01:26:31 PM »
we bought a Vastex v-2000 6/6 brand new after doing a bunch of research on quality and construction. For us the Vastex won our cash.There were several other brands very close in price and quality etc but based on the beef and structure of the vastex it was a no brainer.
i will say however the Antec legend series was also a very good press in our minds and the $$ were very very close. We just liked the Vastex better. The thing is built like a brick schnizt house.
I am pretty sure you can get a 4/4 new at the $$ you reference.
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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 01:35:45 PM »
I recommend looking for a used M&R Sidewinder or Chameleon, Vastex V2000 or Antec Legend.  There are a few other presses out there that are worth buying but I know you can't go wrong with those 4 machines.
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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 02:00:06 PM »
WARNING WARNING WARNING  Sarcastic post alert!!!

Go over to tsf and the press they will kill you for is a Silver Press from Ryonet. They will sing the praises forever on these things. So why buy anything else.

hee hee hee hee

We have Vastex 8/4 btw

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 02:04:31 PM »
Thats funny. But for 1 and 2 color low quanity runs a $400 press will do the job. But any sort of production buy a production style press or take that money for a down payment on an entry level auto.

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 02:07:03 PM »
WARNING WARNING WARNING  Sarcastic post alert!!!

Go over to tsf and the press they will kill you for is a Silver Press from Ryonet. They will sing the praises forever on these things. So why buy anything else.

hee hee hee hee

We have Vastex 8/4 btw

I can't wait until they have a silver auto press.

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 02:07:25 PM »
I had an old Richardson, run away from them, I picked up a like new r Jennings 6/4 for 3g. The MICROS are different but the press is beefy and holds great registration. I do like the anatec a lot also

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 02:18:16 PM »
Any well built press that has print arm struts, if a press lacks print arms struts or made of folded sheet metal I would pass...

I have owned and sold 6 presses. My current press is the Workhorse Mach IV 6/6. 

Cant go wrong with any of these! Buy used , buying anything new these days is kinda stupid unless it's underwear or shoes lol.

Workhorse Mach IV



RJennings

http://www.rjennings.com/6-Color-6-Station-Press_p_357.html

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M&R Sidewinder

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2012, 02:34:01 PM »
I had an old Richardson, run away from them, I picked up a like new r Jennings 6/4 for 3g. The MICROS are different but the press is beefy and holds great registration. I do like the anatec a lot also

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the micros on that Jenning was my only beef if he updated them it would be the perfect press

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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2012, 03:05:05 PM »
Thats funny. But for 1 and 2 color low quanity runs a $400 press will do the job. But any sort of production buy a production style press or take that money for a down payment on an entry level auto.

Not always true. Even a one color press needs to hold "register" for print/flash/print, and not all do.
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Re: Opinions on presses.
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2012, 03:14:24 PM »
where are you located???????





Hello everyone. I'm looking to get a new press (either a 4/4, 6/4 or 6/6). I really have no knowledge of what the quality of the different companies is like. I currently have a 4/4 that has no brand listed on it, and the micro registration is absolutely terrible (The heads are also getting stripped). I've got up to $4000 (hopefully a little less) to spend and I'm hoping you fine folks could recommend some quality presses for the price that have decent micro reg. Or actually if you could also tell me what companies to stay away from I would also appreciate that.

Thanks,
Jason