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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2012, 07:55:35 AM »
The red Gildans print very well with a DC base and spot sim plastisols on top. We do itall the time.
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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2012, 08:51:21 AM »
I've never attempted to do this before so I wanted to ask.  I need to print the image attached.  Would it be possible to use regular discharge base and print 4 color process on red shirts?  If so, would you flash the discharge base before printing the process colors or just print on top of the wet base or should I just stick to simulated process?

Just an FYI, but red doesn't discharge well at all. You had said a discharge base, not discharge white. Why not just use a softhand white for the base, then your top colors including the highlight white? If you haven't already shown your client the art on the red tee, you should as it's horrible. Any light color tee would be better than red. Just my opinion:)
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I agree that the design will look horrible on red.  I think I'll give it one more attempt to persuade her to go with another color tshirt.  If she still insist, I'll tell her that we'll make it look our best.
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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2012, 10:18:02 AM »
And I see 8 colors with the top white.

That includes an orange and a yellow.

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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2012, 10:44:06 AM »
I've never attempted to do this before so I wanted to ask.  I need to print the image attached.  Would it be possible to use regular discharge base and print 4 color process on red shirts?  If so, would you flash the discharge base before printing the process colors or just print on top of the wet base or should I just stick to simulated process?

Just an FYI, but red doesn't discharge well at all. You had said a discharge base, not discharge white. Why not just use a softhand white for the base, then your top colors including the highlight white? If you haven't already shown your client the art on the red tee, you should as it's horrible. Any light color tee would be better than red. Just my opinion:)
Good luck,
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I agree that the design will look horrible on red.  I think I'll give it one more attempt to persuade her to go with another color tshirt.  If she still insist, I'll tell her that we'll make it look our best.

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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2012, 10:45:23 AM »
Actually there is more than that although the three blues and the orange can be achieved with halftones in the right hands
If you want to pick it apart looks like more than one red

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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2012, 11:21:40 AM »
Is she just trying to save money?  Is that why you mentioned cmyk?
 
 I'd do
 1 White or even white discharge.
 2 Yellow
 3 Green
 4 Medium Blue type color.
 5 Black
 6 Red
 7 Top white - would be best to assure a bright white.
 
 I would print the blue and black under red to get the more maroon color. mix to get the Gray, the dark red and Orange shades.
 
 Since you have room on press, we could then also use another lighter blue to assure best quality.
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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2012, 11:56:24 AM »
I just checked the dischargability (is that even a word?) of the gildan red shirts and they all get a B grade which is "acceptable for discharge printing".
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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2012, 12:03:11 PM »
Is she just trying to save money?  Is that why you mentioned cmyk?
 
 I'd do
 1 White or even white discharge.
 2 Yellow
 3 Green
 4 Medium Blue type color.
 5 Black
 6 Red
 7 Top white - would be best to assure a bright white.
 
 I would print the blue and black under red to get the more maroon color. mix to get the Gray, the dark red and Orange shades.
 
 Since you have room on press, we could then also use another lighter blue to assure best quality.

Yes she wants them cheap.  I just didn't know if you could print cmyk after a disharge base on darker shirts.  Such as printing a photograph on black.  I'll probably just set it up sim process and eat the loss. 
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Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2012, 12:16:08 PM »
Probably won't be a loss as a sim, in fact you'll probably make more money due to ease of setup. 

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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2012, 03:09:27 PM »
Probably won't be a loss as a sim, in fact you'll probably make more money due to ease of setup. 

I know this is off topic, but I was going to tell you that you will love your gas dryer when you get it.  I've only used my mini sprint 1 full day and oh man "what a difference"
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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2012, 02:57:21 PM »
This is the Red tee I mentioned while using discharge white as a base and plastisol on top.

230 mesh on base, 305's on top colors.  55 lpi halftone.  Print was 16x19 tall I think er that was the max at standard screens.

1 Base
2 Black
3 Blue
4 Red
5 Yellow
6 Top white


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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2012, 03:38:42 PM »
Pretty dang awesome prints.
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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2012, 03:48:36 PM »
I sent Dan I sim process DC base maroon shirt pic earlier today. DD you can post if you like. Still having problems att pics when i save them to desktop. Probably files too big.

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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2012, 04:37:46 PM »
These were printed by TonyPep and seps by his guy.

The photo of the guy is just breathtaking. Love it.  Smooth.

I did one yesterday that is a 3 color similar to the photo below, sort of tone on tone. I used 3 colors. It was going on several different garments to I needed to keep the image consistent.
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Re: Discharge base and 4 color process on red gildan 100%???
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2012, 05:04:21 PM »
...the guy is just breathtaking. Love it.  Smooth.

Didn't know you were that kind of guy Dan. ;)


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