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Experience with WM Inks?
sportsshoppe:
I have some of the 903WR dual which is not bad for the price and I also purchased some QXL Xenon (purple) and have had problems with re-claiming. It is like gum when you try to reclaim. I talked to sonny and he said I may be over curing so I cut back from 3.5 to 2.0 on my plate maker 1000k. The results was the same a bugger bear to re-claim. I use to use Ulano QLT but I was trying to cut corners. I like the dual cure price, but like the re-claim of the QLT, what is a printers supposed to do.
alan802:
I have used chromablue for years and have exposed probably 5K screens using it. It's a good pure photo emulsion that has done everything we ever asked it to do. We changed over to kiwo one coat for about a year then we have recently went back to the chromablue. It's a high solids emulsion, which I prefer an emulsion around 50%. I have more control over what I can achieve with my stencil thicknesses with a higher solids content. I can have a thin stencil if I want as well. The low solids content emulsions are difficult to attain a thick stencil with and not worth my time.
I recently tried out a quart of the WM Plastics white ink and it has so much puff additive in it that it's ridiculous. I pfp'd our company logo on a few shirts, sent it through the dryer and the damn print was raised up about 2-3mm from the shirt. There was so much puff in it I thought my guys were playing a joke on me. And the opacity was not really that good either. You'd think with that much puff in it that the print would have been bright white and opaque, but no. Needless to say I was really disappointed with their white ink, it down right sucked.
Homer:
Alan -are you back using QCM? I am throwing in the towel on the Xenon white. Too many problems to deal with, back to Quick white. . I heard One Stroke has a new white that is supposed to be for cotton AND blends, I may look for a sample. .
Denis Kolar:
--- Quote from: alan802 on May 16, 2011, 04:57:25 PM ---I have used chromablue for years and have exposed probably 5K screens using it. It's a good pure photo emulsion that has done everything we ever asked it to do. We changed over to kiwo one coat for about a year then we have recently went back to the chromablue. It's a high solids emulsion, which I prefer an emulsion around 50%. I have more control over what I can achieve with my stencil thicknesses with a higher solids content. I can have a thin stencil if I want as well. The low solids content emulsions are difficult to attain a thick stencil with and not worth my time.
I recently tried out a quart of the WM Plastics white ink and it has so much puff additive in it that it's ridiculous. I pfp'd our company logo on a few shirts, sent it through the dryer and the damn print was raised up about 2-3mm from the shirt. There was so much puff in it I thought my guys were playing a joke on me. And the opacity was not really that good either. You'd think with that much puff in it that the print would have been bright white and opaque, but no. Needless to say I was really disappointed with their white ink, it down right sucked.
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Alan.
Thank you so much. I was hoping to hear that about Chromablue.
I like Xenon white, and the guy I talked just sent me WM sample to try and some Franmar chemicals.
First emulsion I tried was Ulano Proclaim dual cure, but that one was taking forever to expose. Xenon Plastifast is fast but it has gummy feel to it and it is hard to reclaim.
Chromablue takes about 20% more time to expose than Xenon but it is still pretty fast.
Homer, I did try One Stroke white. They have sent me a small sample and I did not like it on manual.
Thanks
ebscreen:
I don't always trust manufacturers on their "solids count". I've
had supposedly high solid count emulsion that was thinner than
others with a lower rating.
Just putting that out there.
Also, the difference between a $45 gallon and a $80 gallon is like
what, $0.20 a screen or something? Not one of those areas to
try and save money that is unless you're printing black on white shirts
all day long. (lucky)
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