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Experience with WM Inks?
Denis Kolar:
--- Quote from: ebscreen on May 16, 2011, 07:14:28 PM ---Also, the difference between a $45 gallon and a $80 gallon is like
what, $0.20 a screen or something? Not one of those areas to
try and save money that is unless you're printing black on white shirts
all day long. (lucky)
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If you are saying $80 for Chromablue, your wrong. I'm paying $59 for a gallon. Also, a sample that I got feels a lot better than the emulsions I have used before and it covers the screen a lot better.
Homer:
my 45.00 gallon of emulsion works better than the 100.00 QTX. . .we go through about 5 gallons every 6 weeks, that coin adds up, and uif it works better for us - it's a win.
-how many companies REALLY make their own emulsion and how many just relabel it? It's like WP film, I know of a handful of companies that slap a new sticker on the box and say we made it. BS you did. Vinyl is the same way, converters, middlemen.
Dk -what was the name of the One Stroke you tried, they have about 15 different whites. . they supposedly just released a new one.
killergraphics:
--- Quote from: Homer on May 16, 2011, 05:34:15 PM ---Alan -are you back using QCM? I am throwing in the towel on the Xenon white. Too many problems to deal with, back to Quick white. . I heard One Stroke has a new white that is supposed to be for cotton AND blends, I may look for a sample. .
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What problems have you had with the white?
Denis Kolar:
I got the One Stroke White sample 2-3 months ago.
She said is the brand new white they have. I tried it and put it on the back of the shelf. I will look tonight if I remember.
About emulsion, I would be lucky to go trough one gallon in next 4-5 months. Not a big shop :(
alan802:
--- Quote from: Homer on May 16, 2011, 05:34:15 PM ---Alan -are you back using QCM? I am throwing in the towel on the Xenon white. Too many problems to deal with, back to Quick white. . I heard One Stroke has a new white that is supposed to be for cotton AND blends, I may look for a sample. .
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I'm using the qcm 159 mixed with some ultrasol G5 that I came across. This combo is awesome, but I only have a few gallons of the ultrasol and when it's gone, it's gone. The G5 isn't as opaque as the G4, and the problem I have with the qcm 159 is that it's too short bodied, squeegee climbing SOB, and a too thick to use on higher mesh counts and higher speeds, so I'm mixing them 70/30 to get the best of both inks. I might start mixing the 158 and 159 in different ratios to meet my ridiculous expectations.
I've just recently went through a gallon of the One Stroke Hybrid white. I have mixed reviews on this ink as well. It is awesome to work with, not very short bodied and is not a squeegee climber, and flashes really fast, but it's lacking in opacity for a lot of what we do. Strictly for an underbase white with colors other than white going on top, I think it's great. You can print it fast and it does everything average to slightly above average. I have another gallon of a one stroke white coming in tomorrow, I think it's fast flash pro and I'll post my thoughts on it in a week or 2.
I like a lot of the characteristics of the xenon white, but it has a few deal breakers for us. The flash time and the squeegee climbing are too much for me to deal with. On a long run, 100+, you'll likely have almost the whole gallon of ink in the screen by the time the run is over, and the ink will be all over the sq/fb locks and even as high as the chopper bars. It prints like a dream, covers nicely, mats down the fibers fine, and I think is maybe the best white for a manual press when flash time and squeegee climbing isn't as big of a deal.
I've been thinking of getting a new gallon of the quick white in here and seeing how it compares, I haven't had any in well over a year, so I bet it's better than it used to be.
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