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printed my first job on the auto- came out horrible
JBLUE:
Underbase....Underbase.... Underbase. I know its too late now but you have to base a pink on a black shirt. There is no way to make that look good without it. That sucks you have the situation your in but you would have been better off stopping and adding a base to the print.
killergraphics:
Don't be afraid to base or reduce the inks down some.
And it even helps you use a higher mesh.
You get a cleaner break or shear of the ink load in the screen.
screenxpress:
I don't have an auto, so I should not even be typing on this thread, but the one thing that caught my eye was -
the pink ink kept creeping under the screen where I would have to constantly wipe the under side of the screen
Could that be from too hard (or too steep angle) on the flood stroke?
Sbrem:
Oh man, that sucks. Best scenario, like the other folks, 160 white base, choked around the edges so it doesn't peek out from under the pink and teal, flashed, teal 2nd (because it's darker and doesn't need a flash) then the pink. The pink stays bright because it doesn't get stepped on, and the teal should be fine even stepped on without a flash. At least it works here that way. Top colors on 230, maybe as low as 200, but that's starting to get thick. So sorry bud...
Steve
Shanarchy:
Hi guys,
OK, so I am looking at the shirts again. They are not as bad as I thought. Or are they? They are definitely not on to par to with my standard quality. Now I am trying to determine how passable are they, do I offer the customer a discount, etc.
I think the biggest issue may be no underbase.
I am going to pop the screens on the manual and see how they print. I have p-f-p these colors on the manual before for one color stuff and they usually look great. But, that may help me determine where the issue is stemming from.
Here is how I printed this, and yes, I know this is crazy, but... pink p-f-p-f teal p-f-p. So, yes you are reading this correct, I sent it around 4 times. My reasoning was I don't care how long it takes, I just want to get my feet wet and no under base eliminates a factor.
In hindsight I should have printed them on the manual and waited for a job being printed on lights, but too late for that now. At first I didn't think they looked that bad, but after I was very disappointed.
So I guess my first question for going forward is where should I have flood stroke angle, speed and pressure.
Squeegee angle, pressure and speed.
So it looks like I have 2 main factors; squeegee and flood. Which is the more important variable to play with first?
Also, how do I adjust squeegee pressure? Anatol horizon (all air). The chopper cylinder turns, one on each side but which way adds more pressure? The tech told me to start at 10 and adjust from there. I am assuming the higher the number the more pressure?
Pierre, That is great that Bill (bbb) is on here! He is a great guy and no one would know that press better than him! I will definitely be in touch with him soon.
Side thought, I was thinking about starting a 'manual to auto' thread to consolidate all my millions of future questions in. In think this could serve as a nice reference thread down the line for anyone who is making that transition and i would all be in one place. Good idea? Bad idea?
Please keep the feedback coming!
Thanks guys (and gals)!
Shane
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