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Offline alan802

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Re: Fast flash white?
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2012, 10:56:50 AM »
Everything Bink said, it is very expensive, and too thick to print straight out of the bucket without major hassles.  I add the grey to a good white ink to lower the flash times, the grey gels at such a low temp that your flash times will be so short, your pallets won't even heat up sometimes.  Besides super fast flash times, the grey is probably the best bleed blocker that I've ever used.  I try to use as little as possible to get the bleed resistance I want and the flash times down. 
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Re: Fast flash white?
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2012, 11:40:15 AM »
We have a gallon of flash additive powder that we use where needed.  We're finding that the Nazdar perfprmance white is pretty good but pricey.  Great for poly.
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Re: Fast flash white?
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2012, 01:27:09 PM »
I'm actually liking my bucket of qcm 109 over the 158. I had read a few negatives along the way about it but I decided to give it a shot and I'm already down to a 1/4 bucket and it has been great directly out of the bucket, no thinning or softening, just stir a couple times and go.  Claims use for cotton only but did great on royal blended hoodies.  Haven't tried 50/50 red yet, but I will be ordering another gallon or five!

Flashes the same as 158 as far as I can tell and fell right in line without me having to premix my 158 to get it going.  I have never tried flash times lower than 3 seconds, two seconds would scare me lol I hate that popping sound!

Historically, the XOLB-109 is a cotton only white. Chemically it does have "soooome" bleed resistance, but nothing I would bank on. 
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Re: Fast flash white?
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2012, 08:47:56 PM »
We are currently using Xenon white.


I'd rather print with this... maybe eat some too  ;D


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Re: Fast flash white?
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2012, 08:54:19 PM »
aside from the slower flashing, xenon white is a good all around white.  it has good coverage and a good consistency.

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Re: Fast flash white?
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2012, 09:41:14 PM »
aside from the slower flashing, xenon white is a good all around white.  it has good coverage and a good consistency.
Yes, this is what I said in my post. I like the ink except its flash times are to slow.
When you want to crank up the auto and have to wait for the white to gel, its not good.