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Offline ericheartsu

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Mettallic Gold Ink?
« on: April 30, 2012, 04:24:27 PM »
We have been using 110 and 86 mesh screens to print the two or three different type of Union Metallic Gold Colors.

What do you guys use in terms of mesh and in terms of ink? I'd like to try some different options!

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Offline shellyky

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 04:37:06 PM »
ive been printing SHIMMERS on 86/110 with nice results...full on glitters i think you need a lower mesh than that.

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 04:40:43 PM »
yeah i do the shimmers on 110's , usually p/f/p, gives good coverage...I do not do glitter inks...

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 06:21:09 PM »
try the LX mesh for those. Much wider open area so it lets the particles though easier. You can step it up a mesh count and still pass more and at the same time, hold more detail!

More we use the LX mesh, more we like it.

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 06:39:03 PM »
I'm interested in this as well... just picked up a gallon of that EXACT ink.  I subbed the job that I bought it for out but I will be doing more work for the guy and it's a popular color down here in "saints territory" so I'm sure I'll use it a lot.

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 06:45:04 PM »
I'm printing some One Stroke 180 Copper Metallic this week. I't's going through a 160, though on white, coverage is not as much of an issue as on darks.

Remember though also that there are "metallics", and there are "metallics"
This One Stroke Metallic is not. It's a shimmer. Union has both.
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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 06:58:12 PM »
I use wilflex shimmers with great success through 110.
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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 07:01:01 PM »
sorry i should clarify, we are using the shimmer also.
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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 07:34:44 PM »
I know there are many differences in terms of inks in graphic versus textile, but why is it that you need such a low mesh count to pass metallics? I use powders and a metallic mixing base, up to 355 mesh. I suppose if I wanted it to really sparkle, I would have to go with a larger particle, but the product I am using now sparkles pretty nicely if you want it to. It it because there needs to be a larger ink deposit?

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 07:54:30 PM »
The shimmers flakes are indeed a larger particle than the aluminum or brass powders used in true metallics, but will still pass through a screen finer than 110.
I just tested my copper through a 180, and on a white shirt, it was pretty darn good.

On a dark colored shirt, however, one would not get the opacity, especially if trying to do it with one pass.

I can't accurately compare with true metallics because it's been more than ten years since I used them.


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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 07:33:35 AM »
Union Shimmer Gold and Silver ink through 110. PFP with no issues and great coverage.

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 08:12:42 AM »
We like the Wilflex Shimmers, through a Murakami 110s, 2 passes/strokes. The 110s is a thinner thread, thus larger openings, but still the first pass doesn't quite clear the mesh, the second pass does. No need to P/F/P. I also have mixed true metallic powders into clears and pushed them through 355, but they don't look quite right on cloth, fine on hard surfaces though. The  110s gives a good sparkle with the shimmers. Someone mentioned glitter, and we use a 36 for that...

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 11:02:31 AM »
I also prefer the Wilflex Shimmers.  110s... always make sure there is plenty of ink in the screens.

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 12:58:18 PM »
For true metallics nothing beats the WF Liquid Silver and Liquid gold. Pricey but shiny. The silver is a better product though. Works well on higher mesh counts.

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Re: Mettallic Gold Ink?
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2012, 01:02:46 PM »
But all true metallics made with powder that I have seen eventually tarnish.
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