Author Topic: Additives, whats in your shop  (Read 5866 times)

Offline Prosperi-Tees

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4297
  • Common Sense - Get Some
Additives, whats in your shop
« on: April 22, 2012, 11:35:53 AM »
Softhand Base
Suede base
Halftone base
Curable reducer
Stretch Additive
Others?

What is in your shop and what,why, how much, where etc etc do you use them?


Offline Frog

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13980
  • Docendo discimus
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 11:47:52 AM »
Presently

IC Softhand base (my go-to additive for making stiff whites a little more friendly, and, of course, to soften color inks)
IC Stretch (for obvious stretch materials, and when high school girls order way too small)
IC dulling and suede (have only intentionally used it as a dulling aid. In larger quantities, it produces a suede-like finish)
IC Nylon Bonding Catalyst
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

Offline jasonl

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 582
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 04:20:38 PM »
Finese, its better than softhand clear for about the same price.
Nylabond, obivious reasons
Viscosity buster, use in my white when necessary.
"We Make Blank Shirts Look Awesome!"

Offline mjrprint

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 256
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 09:43:30 AM »
Thinner
Curable Reducer
Suede
Thermoline and miracle clear- used to make tonals

Offline MrBreeze

  • !!!
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 108
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 01:31:42 PM »
All of the above plus Puff
If it's so easy, you do it.

Offline blue moon

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6366
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 08:00:45 PM »
lotsa stuff on the shelf, but not much of it gets used. We try to keep the inks without additives so it makes it easier to repeat the jobs. I think in the last 6 months all we used was reducer, extender and maybe some puff.

We ran out recently and had to order some so the list will be:
flow additive
reducer
three different kinds of bases/extenders (process, soft and regular),
nylonbond,
stretch additive,
transfer additive.

So other than different bases, same stuff as everybody else . . .

pierre
Yes, we've won our share of awards, and yes, I've tested stuff and read the scientific papers, but ultimately take everything I say with more than just a grain of salt! So if you are looking for trouble, just do as I say or even better, do something I said years ago!

Offline brandon

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1709
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 01:31:36 AM »
All of the above and now Flame Retardant! Cool that it makes the ink print like a hot knife through cold butter

Offline ebscreen

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4278
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 01:11:17 PM »
Above plus thickener.

Cool stuff, check it out.

Offline alan802

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3535
  • I like to screen print
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2012, 01:31:37 PM »
Fashion base-so far it's ok, added some to a black ink and it made it extremely bad for wet on wet, maybe it was the ink and the fashion base didn't make it worse, but I expected it to make it better for wow printing.
Softee base-meh, doesn't much help for wow printing, but it will cut a bad ink into something usable.
Wet on Wet Base-great stuff so far, I'll be buying more of this product.
Curable Reducer-I'd rather use other additives but it does the job
Soft Hand Clear-Seems to reduce opacity more than other additives, don't use it much anymore
Thickener-rarely used but comes in handy once or twice a year 

I think that's about it.  I will be adding some HD clear soon, next tough sim process job I'll have a gallon on hand to mix in our ink.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it -T.J.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it -T.P.

Offline IntegrityShirts

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1179
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 01:41:32 PM »
Alan, where are you getting your wow base?  I tried my QCM source and they aren't making it anymore so I'm looking for another brand.

Offline alan802

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3535
  • I like to screen print
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 06:16:50 PM »
It is qcm wow base, I got it from Lee's Supply in Houston.  Damnit, shouldn't have told you because when they run out, I'm screwed.  I had no idea they weren't making it anymore, I hope someone has something similar or they are replacing it with something.  It's basically the only additive I've found to significantly decrease the buildup of an ink.  Some do a marginal job and most make it worse.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it -T.J.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it -T.P.

Offline Zelko-4-EVA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 571
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 08:12:49 AM »
i realize that some of my list below contains various bases - we use the wilflex PC system with various bases to achieve the look that we need.

our most used:
10140 Softhand clear
AB12004 Amazing Base
FSB10340 Fashion Soft Base

not used much:
Nova base
STRETCH ADDITIVE
Thickener #10
suede base
Curable reducer
Viscosity reducer
FLEXIPUFF ADDITIVE
glow in the dark powder
tons of different colors of glitter from meadowbrook
Nylobond
10080FRA FOIL RESIST ADDITIVE


Offline IntegrityShirts

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1179
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 09:48:13 AM »
It is qcm wow base, I got it from Lee's Supply in Houston.  Damnit, shouldn't have told you because when they run out, I'm screwed.  I had no idea they weren't making it anymore, I hope someone has something similar or they are replacing it with something.  It's basically the only additive I've found to significantly decrease the buildup of an ink.  Some do a marginal job and most make it worse.

Exactly what I told my rep.  We played a back and forth game where she would call "QCM"/Rutland I guess and ask questions.  They'd recommend softee base as a wow additive, I would say, "no that doesn't help at all", she'd go back to them and ask again.  I referenced a thread here where Colin himself said softee wasn't intended to modify for wow, I get silence on the other end of the phone lol.

Offline shellyky

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 289
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2012, 04:42:58 PM »
It is qcm wow base, I got it from Lee's Supply in Houston.  Damnit, shouldn't have told you because when they run out, I'm screwed.  I had no idea they weren't making it anymore, I hope someone has something similar or they are replacing it with something.  It's basically the only additive I've found to significantly decrease the buildup of an ink.  Some do a marginal job and most make it worse.

is there a model # on this?  i usually dont do WOW printing at all let alone a large run, but i have a 1500+ pc, 7 color run on blacks/whites that is coming up really soon and i'd love to have something to cut down "issues" im going to have....Any 2nd recommendations if i cant find the QCM stuff?


Offline Mr Tees!!

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 661
Re: Additives, whats in your shop
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2012, 05:39:16 PM »
It is qcm wow base, I got it from Lee's Supply in Houston.  Damnit, shouldn't have told you because when they run out, I'm screwed.  I had no idea they weren't making it anymore, I hope someone has something similar or they are replacing it with something.  It's basically the only additive I've found to significantly decrease the buildup of an ink.  Some do a marginal job and most make it worse.


is there a model # on this?  i usually dont do WOW printing at all let alone a large run, but i have a 1500+ pc, 7 color run on blacks/whites that is coming up really soon and i'd love to have something to cut down "issues" im going to have....Any 2nd recommendations if i cant find the QCM stuff?


hey Shelly, I have been using this, just bought a 5G of it last week. Seems to work really well. Similar to Wilflex's Finesse base, hence the name...

http://www.texsourceonline.com/p-139-texsource-fine-wet-on-wet-base.aspx

...Let Brandt know I may call him this week if thats cool, I need some hardware help, I know he likes that stufff... ::)
Thanks TSB gang!!

...Sean, Mr Tees!!!